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kerrygoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:29 PM Original message |
NPR: John Kerry Lays Out Plan for Iraq Pullout |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. Who cares? Seriously. Who gives a good goddam what Kerry says? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Some do. May be you could just skip the thread. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Or I could respond, express my point of view, and you could either |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Had you said "I dont care". I would have done that. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #10 |
33. To which I can only reply: whatever. nn/t |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:33 AM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Why wast your energy posting something negative ? Looking for |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It worked on you, apparently. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. So you're playing devil's advocate? |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. If you don't care, why did you enter this thread? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. What, I'm not allowed to express an opinion? If I think Kerry's |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Saying Kerry is irrelevant is one thing... |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. Nothing like trotting out the personal attacks |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. just an observation: |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:12 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Funny then that I'm not even backing Kerry in '08 |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #31 |
100. Hey smoogatz |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:21 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. A full year later, you are still following Kerry and his supporters. n/t |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:36 AM Response to Reply #6 |
35. Expressing an opinion whould be replying to what he said and |
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rsmith6621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I Completly Agree |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. My thoughts exactly. Worst. Campaign. Ever. |
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Can o Beans (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Gore. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. He won? Really??!! Then the five years of the Bush misadministration |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
91. You bad boy you!! LOL |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #91 |
97. Glad you are still listening. A lot more people are too. n/t |
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LeftyLizzie (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. More people voted for Kerry |
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rsmith6621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. More People Voted Period |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Let me guess. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. And yet, assuming you accept that the election results were only |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Deal with your assumption? Are you serious? n/t |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 08:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
92. Most people voted for Kerry because they |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Best choice for the candidacy. Agree. n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. Maybe it's the entire left infrastructure that SUCKS - DNC, left media, |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. He won Ohio. There's lots of proof. nt |
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KalicoKitty (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I give a damn! |
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wheresthemind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. I do... |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Thank you . . . .n/t |
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kerrygoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Well the same could be said... N/T |
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rsmith6621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Kerry Should Have Called Bush A Liar |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Kerry did wonderfully in the debates |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Self-delete |
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arewenotdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
117. No Kerry apologist here |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Kerry had too much class to call names. If you can't |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. "Move on"? Like slink away with tail between legs? |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. You mean something like this... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. To answer your question: 1. The person who started this thread |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 08:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
94. Good post, good point, well said.....n/t |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Gee, he seems awfully relevant to you. n/t |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Well, then why bother even reading and posting? |
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lateo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #1 |
37. I couldn't agree more. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
40. Deleted message |
kerrygoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. The conservatives care about what you are saying - |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
111. Kerry, this post is beneath you, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:41 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Bush's logic doesn't apply. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Sorry you didn't understand my logic, but in the |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. I understand perfectly well what you mean. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-12-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I stand by my post, you are entitled to interpret it |
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Clutch Cargo (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. I'm glad he has a plan |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
46. Well, obviously you do or you wouldn't be here adding your two cents. n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
52. Only someone with no respect for historic record would say that. |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
85. Some of us STILL do. Glad to hear he still keeps planning & "visible" |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 06:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
87. I care, and Kerry is a lot more relevant than you, jackass |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 07:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
88. The same feeling goes right back at you |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 07:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. As a long time critic of Kerry, I beg to differ from you! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #89 |
113. And it appears it might come down to Hillary, Warner and Kerry. |
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laugle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
93. Amongst many mistakes Kerry made, I think |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
9. Brilliant speech! n/t |
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liberalpragmatist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-08-05 09:26 PM Response to Original message |
25. Kerry sounds much more engaging on the radio... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
49. He looked really good on Imus this morning! |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. He was great on Imus today. He's got an old fashioned style of |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
36. I am so glad they have him out front on this issue- he make sense |
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ohtransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
43. Like it or not Kerry isn't going away. |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Very well put. We need all the fighting Dems we can get for 2006. n/t |
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ohtransplant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:34 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. I noticed he has a great ability to keep his eye on the ball. |
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_dynamicdems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 04:11 AM Response to Reply #59 |
78. Amen! |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
44. post #1 has a point, JKs fuzzy position(s) been supplanted by better |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Kerry did all those things long before the others. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. I think you have your timetable mixed up. Kerry was crafting a withdrawal |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Your post and the one above it only serve my point |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:02 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. No he said within four years! But his call for withdrawal was in 2004. n/t |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #58 |
83. lawyerly technicalities mixed w/ fuzzy talk then&now: worth zero n/t |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. If you don't understand the facts, fine. A lot of people do. n/t |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
56. Kerry's plan is bullshit |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Why? |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. it's bullshit because it's DOA |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:45 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. No. |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. "a lot of people took note of Kerry's speech" |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #67 |
70. I see your back to your old self again. |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:37 AM Response to Reply #70 |
73. what a moronic post .... |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Excuse me, first you assume you are correct and then you |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 01:01 AM Response to Reply #74 |
75. OK ... you're excused ... |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 01:18 AM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I'm not trying to sell you on Kerry as much as I am trying to |
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kerrygoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 01:29 AM Response to Reply #73 |
77. WT2 - very tacky |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. WT2 - I should have guessed. A couple weeks ago, WT2 asked |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 04:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
82. Kerry crafted his plan WITH members of Iraq's Parliament not linked to |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
99. It's DOA as is Murtha's plan and all other none Bush plans |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
61. He's talking to the wind. |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:35 AM Response to Reply #61 |
72. Well, they have already taken enough notice that they feel |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
95. My mind is open, but in my opinion Kerry has the wrong approach. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:09 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. Kerry is pretending he's the one setting policy? Really? n/t |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 01:56 AM Response to Reply #95 |
110. Is Clark the one setting a policy? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
101. Nor by what Clark, Murtha, Biden, Edwards or McCain say |
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Dances with Cats (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
62. Kerry ins NOT going to be the nominee |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I agree with you there is absolutely no possibility of that. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:21 AM Response to Reply #63 |
80. At this point, I think that it's impossible to say what the choices |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Did the OP say something about 2008? n/t |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. That is the nicest statement this poster has ever done about Kerry |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:29 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Says who? You? Besides, why was it necessary to share that |
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Dances with Cats (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:51 PM Response to Reply #71 |
106. My opinion counts as much as yours in the real world |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Kerry's e-mails are never about 08, but you can unsubscribe. n/t |
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New Earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 08:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
79. what the hell does that have to do with anything? |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:23 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. Can we just focus on getting out of Iraq, 2006? |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
69. This seems to be a sensible well thought out plan for those of us |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
90. MP3 available of Kerry's Plan for Iraq Pullout |
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Paulie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 09:57 PM Response to Original message |
96. Weak plan... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:12 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. The line concerning the UN was basically to say that this was not |
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kerrygoddess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Not only was it very general |
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Dances with Cats (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. good for NPR.... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 01:53 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. So dont listen and stop bothering the rest of the world. |
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