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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:13 PM
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Wes Clark thread.
I just figured I'd start one. So if anyone wants to sound off on what a great job or horrible job Wes would do as president this is the place.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:15 PM
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1. Has he already declared?
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:23 PM
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2. No, but one can dream
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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 04:46 PM
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8. Publicly, Clark says
"I rule out nothing." Privately Clark appears to be chomping at the bit, ready to run. He freely acknowledges that he started late for '04, should have competed in Iowa, bemoans the crappy advice Kerry got re answering the Swift Boat Liars' attacks, and says he'd hit the ground running early enough the next time.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 10:41 PM
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3. Count me in
or something
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 06:02 AM
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4. Most unimaginative "Keep Clark relevant" thread. Ever.
I give it a 2 out of 10.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:43 AM
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6. I give it a 1 out of 10 for "reasons to start a Clark thread"
I give your analysis that it was an effort to "Keep Clark Relevent" a 2 out of 10. Prior to your post I didn't find anything here remotely worth responding to. I guess you did before me.
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:10 PM
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9. Fuck you
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capi888 Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:45 AM
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5. No he hasn't declared...he is busy..
Trying to educate the the People, the Administration, and those who have been blinded by the Right. His goal right now, appearing on Fox, writing articles for the NYT, blogging with his supporters directly, and numerous speaking appearances, is to fight for our troops and TRUE success in Iraq. He is doing this unselfishly! He says, "Its not about being elected, but doing what is right! I have been fortunate to meet and hear Wes Clark, and until you do so, with an open mind, you will understand the support from many of us.
His goal is to put a success in Iraq for our Country,TROOPS, and the World, after Bush created the biggest blunder in Americas History. He said it before, and is saying it NOW!
"Democrats cannot win IF they can't support each other"--Wes Clark. He will never say anything negative about other possible candidates, senators, or anyone who disagrees with him. He believes we have the right to decent, argue, and put out our ideas! Thats what democracy is all about! He is proud to be a liberal, and doesn't let anyone get away by making it a BAD word. He is respected around the World, and when he goes abroad (as he did last week) he is met by heads of state from all over with respect. He is a LEADER!!! I shall follow, whether he runs for President or not.
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xkenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 11:59 AM
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7. Amen. Not Since Bobby Kennedy
have I been so inspired by a public figure as I have by Wes Clark.

Mario Cuomo said, "Wes Clark is a man of whom you can ask a question, and he will look you directly in the eye, and give you the most truthful and complete answer you can imagine. You will know the absolute truth of the statement as well as the thought process behind the answer. You will have no doubt as to the intellect of the speaker and meaning of the answer to this question....So you can see, as a politician, he has a lot to learn.".


Senator George McGovern Remarks For Endorsement
Manchester, NH
January 18, 2004

Thank you, Dudley for that kind introduction. We've been friends for a long time, and it's heartening to see that some thirty years later, you're still willing to come out in the cold for me.

Thirty-two years ago, thanks to the support of Democratic and Independent Voters right here in New Hampshire, I proudly stood as the presidential candidate of our party -- the Democratic Party.

Today, I am proud to stand here this morning and announce my support for a true progressive, a true Democrat, and the next president of the United States.

A man whose progressive policies on education, taxation, health care are in the finest tradition of the Democratic Party.

A man whose ideals, decency, and compassion are in the great tradition of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman, John F. Kennedy, and Bill Clinton.

A man whose life's work and devotion to America will serve as a beacon to our young and give pride to us all.

That man is Wes Clark - and he will lead our party to victory in November.

Like Wes Clark, I'm a veteran. I was an airman in World War II. And I believe there is nothing more patriotic than serving your country.

I also believe there is nothing more patriotic than speaking out - and standing up for what you believe in. That was one of the reasons I ran for president in 1972 - because I believed that Vietnam was a not a war America should be fighting. Back then, Wes Clark was an officer in the United States Army. And in the election of '72, he voted for the other candidate. Let's call it youthful indiscretion. The good news is that this time we both agree.

Today, we are fighting the wrong war in Iraq. And that's one of the reasons I'm standing here today. Because there is only one man in this race with four stars on his shoulders and thirty-four years of military experience. There is only one man in this race who stopped genocide and saved 1.5 million Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. There is only one man in this race who has a success strategy to get us out of the war in Iraq - and get our servicemen and women home safely. And that man is Wes Clark.

Wes Clark is also a champion of America's working families, because he knows that you can't be strong abroad unless you're strong at home. Wes Clark understands the problems facing ordinary Americans, especially the three million Americans who've lost their job since George W. Bush arrived at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. And the 44 million Americans don't have health care, and the thousands who can't afford the sky-rocketing costs of education.

Wes Clark is the only man who can get our country back on track. He's got a jobs program to get our economy going ... a real tax reform to help our working and hard-pressed families ... and a health care plan to make health care affordable for all Americans and universal for all our children. He wants to fight for all Americans, from all walks of life. These are not just Democratic values. These are American values.

Running for president is no easy task. And I have the battle scars to show it. I, too, was the subject of a few dirty tricks during my day. But I'll tell you, there is no better man to withstand the Republican attacks then Wes Clark. And the Republicans know that - they're running scared. The last thing they want is a four star general on their hands. So to my Republican friends out there: get ready, here we come.

Finally, let me say this: There are a lot of good Democrats in this race. But Wes Clark is the best Democrat. He is a true progressive. He's the Democrat's Democrat. I've been around the political block - and I can tell you, I know a true progressive when I see one. And that's why he has my vote.

Wes Clark will bring a higher standard of leadership back to Washington. He'll fight for America's interests, not the special interests. He'll bring honesty, openness, and accountability to the White House. He is a born leader.

That is why I am standing here today: because there's one man in this race with a success strategy in Iraq... there's one man who can really stand up for working American families ... there's one man who can beat George W. Bush - and take back the White House in 2004.

And that man is my friend, our leader, a true progressive, and the next Democratic president of the United States, Wes Clark.

Thank you.
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AmericanDream Donating Member (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:15 PM
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10. May I just say that Clark supporters are a little desperate? n/t
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LandOLincoln Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:19 PM
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11. May I say
that you can kiss my big toe?

I dunno, friend, this thread has been up for...what?..15 minutes? and already there are two of you busybodies stinking up a thread that has zip to do with you.

Whatcha so worried about, eh?
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:22 PM
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12. You could say that, AmericanDream, but you'd be wrong
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:09 PM
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13. I will say this,
Clark is better than any one of us to do a great job.
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