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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:35 PM Original message |
Harry Reid on CNN said the war is winnable militarily. |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. Wait, what did Reid say about Dean? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. He said Dean needed to organize not make policy. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. "Because people will see what is really going on. " |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
92. Thank god for Howard Dean. |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Reid is correct...and Dean knows it |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
54. Dean must speak out until the entire party... |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:08 AM Response to Reply #54 |
97. perfectly stated |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 11:51 PM Response to Reply #97 |
113. Acknowledged! |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:05 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Reid is right |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. You think Iraq is winnable? Our many lives. |
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Poppyseedman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. It is not about me and what I think. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:01 AM Response to Reply #53 |
93. I see - it's not about doing what is RIGHT - it's about STRATEGY |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. We won the war |
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Ignacio Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:56 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. He's raised $10 million more than McAuliffe did at this point in 2003 |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
96. Reid is WRONG |
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cantstandbush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
106. The war is only "winnable" if you kill everyone in Iraq and flatten it. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
41. "He said Dean needed to organize not make policy." |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:10 AM Response to Reply #41 |
98. Whatever happened to the 1st Amendment? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 07:41 AM Response to Reply #98 |
104. He wasn't speaking as a citizen |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. OK, I'll bite |
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Humor_In_Cuneiform (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
82. I really do not recall Party Chairs sitting on their hands and covering |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. We can nuke Iraq and call it a victory! |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. What is sad is that some Americans think in those terms |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. I've heard some Vietnam vets say the same thing |
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Caution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. Of course the war is winnable militarily. The cost is the question |
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greenman3610 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Now I'm confused |
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Caution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. And I thought Dean was a statesman who would understand that |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. No, now Harry's an evil war monger |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:59 PM Response to Reply #5 |
72. As you get older... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Cost in lives...killing and bombing to win. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
49. And with over 58,000 killed in |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. Second verse same as the first |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
61. Have you opened the link MrBenchley provided, MF? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Yes, he was cherry-picking. Transcript. |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. MrBenchley wasn't cherry picking, he was |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. But today Harry Reid made it clear Dean was not involved. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Again, you are making up words I never said. Totally unfair. |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. "He APPARENTLY said the war was ABSOLUTELY |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Ok, you win. |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:16 AM Response to Reply #86 |
88. You were not even close to fair, and I see you have now |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 10:56 AM Response to Reply #88 |
107. That's nothing--wait until she starts accusing YOU |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:26 AM Response to Reply #107 |
114. Again, not true. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. The war is won if we declare it a victory and get the hell out.... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
16. Of course it's ridiculous to say the US military can't win a war |
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saskatoon (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. killing untold numbers of innocent civilians |
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SunDrop23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
60. Exactly! |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
66. No. It is not. We are in the wrong. It will NEVER be won militarily. |
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DoYouEverWonder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
4. If BushCo wanted to restore law and order in Iraq |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. Here we go again....... |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. And is it even worth looking to see what Reid REALLY said? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Do we know what he said on CNN. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. Based on other posts we can bet it won't be anything like |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
64. I very much resent that. You are trying to hurt my integrity. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I said he said it today on CNN...I will post the transcipt. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Please post it when you have it. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I am looking now. A video will be up later. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I didn't say he was. |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. You sure as shit implied it. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:39 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. It is quite honest. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:52 PM Response to Reply #32 |
52. I am getting tired of your continued statements about my honesty. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:08 PM Response to Reply #52 |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. See. You did it. You said my post was "an hysterical attack" |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:50 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Attacking a good Democrat like Harry Reid |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:20 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. I did not attack Reid, I differed. There is a huge huge difference. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #67 |
115. Even to the newbees of politics like myself, its pretty clear what is |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:07 AM Response to Reply #29 |
95. It is BUSH*s war - him and him alone. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:05 AM Response to Reply #12 |
94. Then I totally agree with what he said, as I totally agree with what |
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formernaderite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
14. This is the beginning of the DLC coup.... |
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DELUSIONAL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. Reid should be replaced -- |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
20. Yes, Harry, we can win the war all right. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. Transcript: |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. "absolutely winnable militarily, economically, politically" |
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MrBenchley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. So most Democrats, including Dean, think the war can be won |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. So it was Candy Crowley who came up with this |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Read what I said...look up the video. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. When the video is up I will post it. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:23 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. MF, I think CNN is doing this for ratings. Dean and Reid |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Reid corrected Dean publicly today. It was obvious. |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I believe Dean, that's all. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:50 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. It is our own Democrats distorting as well. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
38. Over a million Vietnamese, over 54,000 of our military. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
39. Sure, if we were as brutal and immoral as Saddam was. |
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Rainscents (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. You need to re-read the trascrip! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Yes, he now understands it. |
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Justice Is Comin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. I hope this is enforcing my point. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 08:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. No, he said it all very honestly. The sadness is his own party... |
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HR_Pufnstuf (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
55. <poof> |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
65. This is because Harry Reid is being tied to the Abramhoff scandal. |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 03:02 AM Response to Reply #65 |
117. Reid has received large donations from Israel connections, look |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
68. Why do you and others keep doing this? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. No, I am not attacking. Here is the whole transcript. |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 10:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. I'm going to give Reid the benefit of a doubt. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:13 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. He corrected Dean in public. It was not a slapdown. I did not say that |
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bklyncowgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 07:04 AM Response to Reply #74 |
103. I wasn't implying that you said it was a slapdown--if I did I apologize |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. For the quote about winning, we dont have a direct quote |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:16 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Please for God's sake, show me in this thread where I said attack. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I never said that you were attacking Reid. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Hey, join the club. I never attacked and I never used the word. |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #69 |
80. I did not write that you always do this. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Then they should not allow themselves to be manipulated. |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-09-05 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
83. what happens when US fatalities, go to zero, or nearly so? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. We are not going to ever leave. |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:52 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. public perception of the 'Iraq' issue will change, ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 01:09 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. You have forgotten Vietnam. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:15 AM Response to Reply #89 |
100. US fatalities will only increase as long as we remain. |
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rfkrfk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:25 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. what reports? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Is THAT when the Iraqis will start throwing flowers? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 02:13 AM Response to Reply #83 |
99. What repuke talking points are you reading? |
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Humor_In_Cuneiform (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
87. Point of clarification - Reid didn't appear on CNN but was quoted |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
101. "the war is winnable militarily" |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
105. Brainfart Harry... forgiveable... not where this is concerned I'm afraid. |
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twaddler01 (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
108. You would think |
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hollowdweller (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
109. I like Reid, but lets see what he says in 2 more years w/4000 dead |
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Callie (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
111. Are you serious? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-10-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Wrong, it's the Republican Party that's a mess. |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
116. I guess that's a good recommendation since shipping dead US soldiers |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
118. DEAN has been right all the way 'long |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-11-05 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
119. Of course it's "winnable," but at what cost? |
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