Which "senior" Democratic Senators were informed of Bush's spying?

From what I have gleaned, it was the intelligence committee. Joe Biden? Any more Democrats on that committee? Jay Rockefeller?

Shouldn't we find out what they were told?

I hear that it was Rockefeller for sure but that even thou he heard it, it did not approve doing it.


Does that make sense?

the judge in charge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. I think he came in after and raised issues about it.

and Harry Reid is an 'ex officio' member

Isn't she a hawk?

that she never knew.

that the NSA was spying on American citizens??

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), a member of the Intelligence and Judiciary committees who has often sided with the administration on national security issues, called the program "the most significant thing I have heard in my 12 years" in the Senate and suggested the president may have broken the law by authorizing surveillance without proper warrants.

"How can I go out, how can any member of this body go out, and say that under the Patriot Act we protect the rights of American citizens if, in fact, the president is not going to be bound by the law?" she asked

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/16/AR2005121601825.html


Feinstein is the biggest fraud since George Bush. She's up to her neck in complicit guilt and lying through her teeth to protect herself. She has consistently refused to listen to her (obviously smarter) constituients since the war crimes began. Her stint as a conservative democratic is over... she has no credibility as a Democrat and doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of re-election in California. Can you tell she makes me angry?

But, that does not preclude them to act as if they were ignorant to the White House shenanigans. You can speak out without ever revealing facts.

Jay Rockefeller---somthing to the effect of him knowing and being opposed but because of the rules regarding espionage he could not speak publicly about it.

of the Intelligence committees..But they are precluded from revealing anything.

Kerry could have been elected if this had been blasted out there for the American People with a Democratic Grassroots just raring to go. We even have the "internets" who would have been after this on a dime?

Instead we got bogged down with AWOL where Rather got Axed..but what if we had known this?

New York Times (Jayson and Judith Shills) SAT ON THIS THROUGH THE ELECTION?

WHERE IS THE DEM OUTRAGE...from our "so called Elected Officials?" How many of them will "step up to the plate" and be counted. :shrug:

I've sort of given up at this point....:-( I don't have much hope for Rockefeller and the others who are "career politicians to help us "Grassrooters out with this latest revelation in a long string of aggregious and reprehensible acts..

Feinstein said today during her speech on the Senate floor that those on the committee who knew about the spying were bound by law not to disclose classified information ...

of course, one could make an argument that the spying was unconstitutional and they had an obligation to disclose it ... the bottom line is that they probably couldn't have done it ...

btw, the same was true of pre-war intelligence lies ... Senator Bob Graham alluded to the fact that he knew the intelligence was fabricated but was unable to disclose what he knew and how he knew it because it was classified ...

i certainly agree there should be DEM OUTRAGE that these constitutional violations were authorized by the WH ... it's a tougher call to blame those Democrats on the committee who knew about it ...

to keep us SAFE?

What my question is...the one that bogs me down in my mind...my thinking ..is that we NEVER/EVER were ATTACKED HERE AT HOME with a CO-ORDINATED EFFORT like 9/11 where our Government FAILED BIG TIME TO KEEP US SAFE?

Not Clinton/Poppy/Reagan/Carter/Ford/Nixon/Truman/Eisenhower/FDR and all?

Why was it the "Chimp off the old Blockhead" was the ONLY PRESIDENT TO HAVE THE MOST MAJOR CO-ORDINATE ATTACK IN AMERICAN HISTORY...AND.....Where were the "Cold War Safe Guards?"

Clinton disbanded them? ....Yeah...So, why didn't weakkneed/blowjob Clinton manage to get us ATTACKED IN A COORDINATED MAJOR ABC&only "D" failed and was blown up? What if EF&G were planned?

Why the Hell does Chimp GET OFF ON THIS? Where are folks pointing out that THE BUCK STOPPED WITH HIM!!!!

Committee and "I don't know anything...it's all so new to me...I really couldn't understand it all."

If a Rockefeller can't understand it all ...then we are lied to or he's the dullest "porch bulb" in the Rockefeller Dynasty that he didn't GET what was going on...even if he was "new" to the Committee.

I just can't see how that fits as an EXCUSE.. Can You All???? :shrug:

NO SUCH THING as having to remain silent in the face of presidential lies and flouting of the constitution!

I said, "I don't believe I would have sat there and knowing it was illegal to wiretap American citizens and not report it anonymously to a reporter or somebody..."

She said, "But you have integrity..." I thought, "Don't we all have that?"

http://intelligence.senate.gov/members.htm

Bob Graham is not listed but he was a member in 02, I think.