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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:40 PM
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msnbc front page: spy plot thickens
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10488458/


"NEW YORK - President Bush has personally authorized a secretive eavesdropping program in the United States more than three dozen times since October 2001, a senior intelligence official said Friday night.

The disclosure follows angry demands by lawmakers earlier in the day for a congressional inquiry into whether the monitoring by the highly secretive National Security Agency violated civil liberties.

“There is no doubt that this is inappropriate,” declared Republican Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. He promised hearings early next year."
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:45 PM
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1. WTF is next with
these cruel dictators? Sneaky bastards..who could have prevented 9/11 if it hadn't have been in their best interests to let it happen.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:50 PM
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2. This is likely impeachable.
A President swears to uphold the Constitution. This is impeachable for failure to abide by the oath of office to say nothing of the fact that it's probably illegal on top of everything.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:57 PM
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4. Oh, don't be so melodramatic.
It's not like bush got a blow job or something really vile like that. :sarcasm:
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:31 PM
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12. Whats really sad is that there are real voters who agree with that
wayward thinking...
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:03 PM
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6. Nah.
He will continue to wreak havoc and claim innocence in the name of protecting the murkin people, and all will be forgiven. Our only chance is a five by ten glossy of him snuggled up to gannon/guckert. Then we can start the hearings. Otherwise the murkins aren't interested.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:50 PM
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3. Why wait till next year? Freedom is under attack. Investigate now.
Take Christmas Day off, then get the fuck back to work defending our Consitution - you SWORE you would!
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:58 PM
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5. FOX -TV and the White House are telling people that....
the NSA was eavesdropping and spying only on foreigners calling into this country. But were they? Did they really spy on Jimmy Carter? How many Americans were spied upon? This is serious. Real serious...
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Peachhead22 Donating Member (798 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:06 PM
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8. Spied on Jimmy Carter?!
Where'd you hear that? If that's true then it's game over for the Bushies. There's just no way in hell to spin spying on a former President.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:26 PM
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11. I read that earlier here on DU...
I don't know where the info came from ?? :shrug:
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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:07 PM
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10. Well not many at all ...

Like everything the Bush administration does, no one's civil rights were infringed upon. But there is no way to check because all that information is secret. Because telling innocent people that they've been spied upon would jeapordize national security. Besides, they weren't spied on anyway so there is no one to tell.

Oh yeah, and the US does not torture. But we reserve the right to do so specifically because we don't do it.

If my fellow Americans cannot grasp that this is the road to fascism (ala Germany) than I have given up hope. Jefferson's warnings about the blood of traitors and patriots may indeed need to be invoked.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 05:18 AM
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15. Whatever the WH admits to and Faux reports multiply that by a factor
of a 100 to 10,000 and that will probably be IN the ballpark of what really happened.

(not to mention all the other stuff we haven't found out about yet)
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:05 PM
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7. I wonder if Dem HQs
Edited on Fri Dec-16-05 11:09 PM by kingofalldems
accidentally got spied on.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:06 PM
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9. Finally. The Chimp looks scared and very guilty today.
I would love to wake up tomorrow and hear he's resigned.

I think he won't hold up under the pressure much longer. Too many things.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 11:37 PM
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13. I don't think the black power that owns junior would let that happen.
If junior over rode 'em, they play out the truth on this sucker where he couldn't take a shit without seeing a paparazzi or newsman for the rest of his sad ass life.

Everything about his AWOL days, and the SEC stock exchange scam would come out as would his addictions.

junior's doomed! Damn if he does and damn if he don't.

Would the nation forgive him if he came clean? I don't know!
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 05:21 AM
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16. But but, he is one of them rough, tough chicken hawk sissies.
:sarcasm:
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 05:03 AM
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14. This one isn't going away
Kennedy, Biden and Feingold are on the Judiciary Committee that will be investigating this and they're going to be very vocal in their outrage. Hell, even Specter is pissed, and that - in and of itself - speaks volumes.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 06:31 AM
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17. I hope they get more curious
about the intercepts bolton got hold of.

I suspect it is all part of te same thing.
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