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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:10 AM
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McCain on "This Week" WTF is he talking about??
He says Congress knew what Bush was up to? :wtf:

Can somebody explain to me what Congress is supposed to have known about unauthorized spying on U.S. citizens? This has to be a stretch on McCain's part.

I can't believe I used to like that guy. Jeez, what a Republo-slut.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:11 AM
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1. I hate this mother fucker now, I used to like him --- He is lying right
now on my TV too...
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:12 AM
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2. As Levin said on MTP...
Congress has nothing to do with it...
Bush broke the law by not involving the courts
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:13 AM
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3. Knowing About A Crime And Not Acting To Stop It Is Also A Crime.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:16 AM
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7. We need to know who in Congress - either Dems or Reps -

knew about the illegal wiretaps and failed to immediately inform the American people. If Dems were in on this shit, their asses should be grass too. I am sick of this bullshit and we have to hold all of them accountable.
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:13 AM
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4. If you can tell me what him, Rice or any them are talking about please
give me a clue. Because it sounds like to me we have a bunch of really bad liers who have been caught breaking the law.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:15 AM
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5. running for president, ergo no answers to any question
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:16 AM
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6. what do you expect from someone who was against having
Martin Luther King be a national holiday, or took bribes from Keating and company during the S&L crisis???
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:16 AM
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8. It was the Karl Rove "Swift-boating" of him that made me hate Bush from
the beginning.

I really wanted to see a Gore VS McCain (McCain is my senator here in Az) showdown because although I would've voted for Gore, if McCain had won at that time I would've respected his victory and called him my president with little reservation.


Today I don't know the man at all and he's just another flat earther repuke to me.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:17 AM
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9. Yea, I know. I really liked him when he wwas riding around the
Countrry on the "Truth Express" or what ever he called his bus. I'm positive he has been told he'll get the green light for the Pub nomination as long as he's a good boy, and that's what he's now doing. Damn shame too. He's lost all the support he had from the rational people, probably won't get support from the real fundies, and there won't be enough voters left to elect him to anything beyond Senator from Az.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:20 AM
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10. McCain is a disgrace
After the way Bush, Rove, et al smacked him around like a little girl in the South Carolina primary, one would think he'd have the self-respect to stand up to these people.

His performace today was a disgrace.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:33 AM
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11. McCain sold his soul to Beelzebush long ago in order to win the
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 11:35 AM by Kahuna
support of bush worshippers.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:37 AM
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12. What little respect I had left for McKissBushButt....
...is gone with this interview. Only because I've heard these RW talking points all weekend. "lather-rinse-repeat" ad nauseaum.
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:54 AM
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I don't have the whole story on this...
But what I've been hearing since last night is that a handful of congressional reps (reps & senators) where informed by the admin on a few occasions that they we doing/going to do this. Maybe 8 people from congress.

_Including_ some dems on the intelligence committees - Bob Graham, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, those were the names I heard this moring on "This Week." Some of them wrote letters opposing back to the admin. Apparantly they were sworn to secrecy. Bob Graham spoke out yesterday about what he knew. I don't have a link to that article but you should be able to find it, it was posted here yesterday.

The Dems can't claim total ignorance on this, folks.

The most amazing thing is that even GEORGE WILL (and Cokie Roberts too) on "This Morning" this morning was foaming at the mouth about what an abuse of power this was.

Cokie made the point that not only was this an abuse by the administration, but a severe abdication of power by Congress of their oversight ability ("the only time there is oversight in the congress is when one political party wants to 'get' the other one"). Must say, for a change I agree with her.


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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 12:18 PM
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14. Coki Roberts is still a shill for bush.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 06:08 PM
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15. Then why does Cokie still shill for Bush?
She admitted that this is wrong. She knows that Bush is crap. Why doesn't she just come out against * once and for all?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 01:32 AM
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19. because she is a bush whore
and that's what whores do
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:54 AM
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13. Read this
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 06:14 PM
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16. In a way, he was right...but this event has awaken Americans about...
...the Patriot Act.

People generally have no idea what the Patriot Act is and what a tragic piece of legislation it has become. Now people can see that Bush can spy on them without any excuse other than his pretzel-banged, cocaine-fried mind tells him as he acts like he reads the Bible.

As for McCain, he is absolutely NOT to be trusted.
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 11:42 PM
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17. I always had him pegged as an extremely conservative pol who
was adept at spinning the media. But I did think that at least to some extent he was a principled man. I don't think that anymore. He, along with Lindsay Graham, have been major disappointments on the torture issue. They have stood by silently and let Warner and the WH pin the prison atrocities on low level personnel when they know this goes all the way to Cheney and Bush.
He showed his true colors during the '04 Election when he put his nose so far up W's ass that it was disgusting. Especially in light of how the little weasel attacked McCain's loyalty and sanity. There is no way I could embrace someone who attacked my wife and child the way that the Bush gang did to the McCains. Ambition can do terrible things to a person and John McCain is Exhibit 1 for that proposition.
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Spiffarino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 12:35 AM
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18. I lost nearly all respect for Graham, too, after the torture business
Graham has a lot more sense than most Republicans, which is why I am floored that he would help Bush and Cheney on the torture issue.

McCain even speaking to Bush after what he let Rove get away with is unfathomable. I wonder if Cindy McCain has locked him out of the bedroom. I wouldn't blame her a bit.
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