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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:32 PM
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We need to find some people who have been spied on, get them on CNN, etc.
Now that everyone's been talking about this - we need to get some REAL people onto the talking head shows to further reinforce that it is just regular people that are being spied on - not terrorists.

Someone who is as pure as the driven snow AND a good speaker. Maybe some grandmother. Anybody know of someone like that who would be willing to get out there?

THEN we will need to contact the talking heads - Olbermann, Matthews, Anderson Cooper.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:37 PM
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1. How can you find out whether you were on the list?
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:24 PM
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7. you can't !!
at least not according to the FISA laws ... even the source of info used against you in a criminal proceeding that was obtained under FISA does not need to be disclosed ...
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:39 PM
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2. We don't need Angels - We need Normal American Human Beings..
What's wrong with more lengthy interview with the Quaker Peace Group that was spied on and discussed in reports?

i think that featuring that group is a beautiful example in helping to shed light on the evils of a totalitarian regime that ours have become. No thanks to the DLC appeasers who aided and abetted the state of fascist totalitarian dictatorship that our country clearly is becoming.

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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:56 PM
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4. YES!! I agree.
Edited on Sun Dec-18-05 04:08 PM by indie_voter
Right now the spin is this was done to help the "war on terror", which for middle america means Arab-Americans.

You put the Quaker Peace Group front and center and that will wake people up, it isn't about protecting us from terrorism.

Edited to add: I think spying on ANYBODY illegally is despicable, but I also think so many people have bought in to the fear that they won't care if Arab Americans are spied upon, just as they didn't care when Japanese Americans were interned



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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:24 PM
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8. Yes - they were on one show - so you'd think they'd be willing....
Now to get a hold of them and try to get them on more shows.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 03:42 PM
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3. Hope the Congress will subpoena the names of the 30,000 who have been
spied upon, make a list of who these people are and what they do including political affiliations and activities, and see if connecting the dots form a mosiac or some pattern.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:28 PM
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9. Here's something I found - but i'd be paranoid to use it.
https://secure.bridgerinsight.choicepoint.com/free-trial.asp?&wt.srch=1&wt.mc_id=5DGOOG&PageTitle=Terrorist%20Watch%20List%20Software.%2020+%20Lists.

You'd prob. be added to the list then.

I might put the name of some Bushbot you dislike first and see if they appear on the list a while later.
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:21 PM
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5. the only person I ever talk to about Bush is hubby
Did they tap our bedroom????

If so, they know that both of us hate Bush.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:22 PM
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6. How about the Quakers that were featured in NBC's report
We know who they are and where they are.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:29 PM
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10. Didin't someone ask DU for the name of the people here?
THAT'S a definite no-no - I would think....
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 04:48 PM
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11. Actually we need them to file a criminal complaint against the President.
This is a felony folks. Read the FISA Act, 5 years in the pokey + 10k fine per count. Add in conspiracy and obstruction and multiply by the number of counts and it's game over for BushCo. Read my post "Listening in without a warrant not just impolite, it's a felony" and be sure to write and call your Congressmen, Senators, and newspapers about it.

These people need to file a criminal complaint with their Federal prosecutors.

There may also be state court cases against these people depending on the relevant state laws.

Doug De Clue
Orlando, FL
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