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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:09 AM
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".. Constitutional lawyers versus real Americans?"
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 10:00 AM by underpants
Wait... wait for it...... Okay here it is. :grr::nuke:

They got the memo

The Today Show was in full force this morning.

David Gregory was sitting in for Lauer (which O'Donnell will be at the press conference then) and he was reading White House talking points to Russ Feingold. I liked Russ before but I really like him over the last few days. Russ would have none of it.
"There are TWO WAYS to do this under Title 3 or through the FISA court, that's it"

"We need to investigate to see if it is illegal"
"I don't know what statute they think they are using"

These are paraphrased but that was the gist of it.

Then Katie was discussing it with Russert-who actually is being as black/white about this as Feingold.

Anyway Katie got to this "So is this going to be constitutional lawyers and scholars versus real Americans who want to prevent another 9/11 from happening"

Russert: "Yes I think it is Katie ......"

I'll post the video when the link is up.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:12 AM
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1. Fuck you Katie
You are confusing your popularity on a hack of a morning show, for all god forsaken things, with actual intelligence.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:14 AM
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2. Right! Real Americans who want to wad up the Constitution and
the Fourth Amendment and the rule of law and flush it down the toilet!! Katie Couric just lost me forever and ever and ever with that one!!! Who the F!@#k is she to define "real" American? Guess what Katie? - REAL Americans have fought and died for centuries to protect the rights that you for one don't give a crap about! If you get hired as a "serious" news anchor - you can forget right now about having any credibility whatsoever. Go to Fox where you belong right this minute!!!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:20 AM
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4. Yeah the whole weekend offered much absurdity on the airwaves
Sitting with our baby I caught up on some TV news watching.

CNN is actually a joke -I'll see if I can find the Daily Show type actual report on deer attacking humans (funniest thing I have seen in a while)

Condi was on MTP (why was the Sec.of State on to talk about spying?) and though Russert did ask some hard questions to start he let her openly lie right to his face.


W's speech was really bad. Did they let him see it before he read it? Did they just cut and paste talking points together?

60 Minutes made it seem like reditions are all Clinton's fault.

The Today Show is over for me. Finally.

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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:14 AM
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3. Real Americans want to prevent
the subversion of our constitution. That's how to REALLY protect our freedoms.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:25 AM
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5. Lawyers and scholars aren't "real Americans"?
You're right. She is an imbecile. A dangerous imbecile.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:27 AM
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7. katie couric needs to be
made accountable for that dangerous inaccurate statement..does she think no one is watching or wtf does she think or does she EVEN THINK?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:53 AM
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34. What do you expect from a former weather girl imbecile?
I certainly haven't expected much.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:25 AM
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6. And we thought you couldn't
media whore anymore than you already have..Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse Me!

So does this mean katie right winger newshead LIKES to be spied on or is she just an ol' mediawhore?????

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:28 AM
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8. Demand she be taken off the air.
All traitors are against the constitution.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:28 AM
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9. Kunty Kate, our own Tokyo Rose
What a propagandist whore - oh well, I suppose the pay is superb.....
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:30 AM
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10. REAL Americans DEFEND the CONSTITUTUTION against ABUSES such as Bush
and the neo-RePIGliCON party has commited against it.

Unflippin' believeable! So according to Katie the MAJORITY of AMERICANS who believe that our CONSTITUTIONAL protections and rights are more important then some ILLUSION of security are not "real Americans"? Looks like Katie is "projecting" and delusional more then a bit.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:30 AM
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11. BTW, when David Gregory was asking Feingold those WH talking
point questions, he had a half grin and seemed to be pitching the questions for Feingold to hit out of the park...interesting synergy there. MKJ
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 11:52 AM
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36. Gregory is on the good side.
Unlike Katie, Matt, Al, and Company, Gregory is a real journalist.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:33 AM
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12. ..Saw it too; what a ridiculous statement. Apparently surrendering
'a few of our civil liberties' is no big thing for that Seahag.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:33 AM
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13. Katie, like everyotheroneofthose "journalists"
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 09:34 AM by Evergreen Emerald
...Sold her soul to the neo-cons. Those reporters want to keep their high-paying jobs and therefore shill for the administration. If they even attempt to question the admin. they are threatened with their livelihood. As someone said on another post: the neo-cons spent the 80's and 90's buying out the media.

We have no free press. I guess we cannot expect more from the reporters, they have mouths to feed. There is no integrity in the media.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:37 AM
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14. maybe she was just analyzing their spin strategy
seriously, that's what it sounds like to me, and I think she nailed it. I don't think it was an accident Condi said three times that she wasn't a lawyer, I think they're going with lawyers vs. the rest of us.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:55 AM
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19. Oh Cocoa you hit right on it
Yes that is what they are doing to do. Wow are they together on their talking points.

Good catch/call.

BTW-Condi was ridiculous on MTP. I actually laughed out loud at her. She said basically FISA is outdated and then used it as justification for spying or something like that I was laughing to hard to catch all of it. ONe more thing-why was the SECRETARY OF STATE talking about domestic spying? Why wasn't the Attorney General fielding questions about this?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:44 PM
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31. after watching the clip at MediaMatters.org
I'm certain she knew that the Bush admin. spin was "lawyers vs. Americans" but she and Russert weren't analyzing shit, they were promoting the administration's framing. :mad:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:37 AM
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15. WTF do you expect from mouthpieces for the military industrial complex?
C'mon, look at who owns NBC. GE, a huge defense contractor, whose profit margins continue to soar with every fiscal quarter we spend in Iraq. Do you honestly think that they're going to bite the hand in the White House that is feeding them? Of course not.

We have absolutely got to do two things concerning the media when Democrats return to power. The first is to repeal at least the '96 Telecom Act(and if we can the other past legislation that has allowed media conglomeration), The second is to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. This would be a big step toward restoring honesty in the media.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:43 AM
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16. Katie is not dumb she graduated from U. of Virginia
She knows what she is doing ....... she was being a shill.

She is drunk with the power and high on money. I saw her once cut off two doctors who had saved a person's
live on a trans-Atlantic flight by using a pen, vodka, and a pocket knife to preform a tracheotomy. One of the
Drs. was Scottish and in his 60s and she was bored with the story so she just hushed him up ..... bitch.

I also read that she went through 5 personnel assistants in 2 years.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:27 AM
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25. she is on TV because of her looks, not her mental capacity nt
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 01:45 PM
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26. "her looks"? YIKES!!!!!!
Maybe if they turned her upside down to show only her Ferragamos!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:46 AM
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17. "Our American Way of Life"
If not being spied on by your govenment isn't at the core of "Our American Way of Life", then what the hell is? I can't figure out what all this fighting to protect "Our American Way of Life" is all about, since none of it seems to be important to these idiots anyway.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:15 AM
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22. This administration hates us for our freedoms
they just proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt to me! blivet** has been projecting that talking point, just as all his other points in that speech last night. Everything he said last night could be applied to him if someone from another country were making that speech. We should show how that speech could apply to anyone else in the world talking about us with researched actions to back up OUR statements.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:19 PM
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29. Hi Buddy
bush is just covering up another of his crimes. I guarantee that bush & company used this to follow John
Kerry. I saw way too much creepy shit in Ohio in 04 working for Kerry.

I really hate that little shit. He has never done an honest thing in his life.

Stop by the KOEB clubhouse if you feel like it. You will always be my Fav EDV.





A mother Bay Air & Cubs look for Sydnie in the woods above Gull Bay.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 07:41 PM
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30. Hi Buuuuud - deeeeeeeee
You just might be on to something there. They always seemed to know just how to derail Kerry. There must have been a conversation about "only thing they can do is produce Osama" and wham ... there's a tape!



Botany scratching Steph's back on a lazy day in Gull Bay.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:48 AM
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18. email them.... are YOU a "real American"?
today@nbc.com

she should get busted to weather bunny in Colby Kansas or somewhere...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 09:56 AM
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20. EXCELLENT !! email link HERE
Some people might want to wait until the video is linked so they can see it for themselves. I was as accurate as possible but you should really see it for yourself before you email IMHO.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:00 AM
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21. Those who protect the constitution are not "real Americans"
:argh: :grr: :nuke:
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 10:43 AM
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23. Will these "Real Americans" be using Hulk Hogan's theme music?
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 10:43 AM by Strawman
When they come on TV to defend their actions? "Real American's versus consititutional lawyers and scholars." What an outrageous trivialization of our most fundamental rights!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 11:23 AM
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24. VIDEO #12 of 13 -Feingold is on #7 of 13
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 11:24 AM by underpants
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:57 AM
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35. I just went to your link - my god it reads like a Sunday advertising
Edited on Tue Dec-20-05 01:57 AM by TankLV
supplement rag!

Not a single bit of real news!

Worse than reading "lady's home journal" or "readers digest".

Simply astounding.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 02:52 PM
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27. Katie's plastic surgery has caused extensive brain damage...
she can go fuck her perky self
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:50 PM
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28. Front page of MediaMatters
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:00 AM
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32. Write her a letter
I did. This real American is infuriated by his spying and is not ready to give up her constitutional rights for an illusion of safety.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:05 AM
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33. Yeah, 'cuz everyone knows that real Americans HATE the Constitution
and all it stands for. Accordingly Constitutional lawyers are surely somewhere beneath child molesters in the rank order of hated persons.

Why, there's no worse enemy of real Americans than the ACLU !
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