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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:12 PM
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Bush Admin had intercepts of bin Laden and al Qaeda BEFORE 9/11
Edited on Mon Dec-19-05 03:18 PM by TheGunslinger
Did nothing about it until Sept. 12:


http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/06/20/911.warning/




All this bloviating about the NY Times endangering National Security is complete and utter bullshit.




Also, all of this:

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:0cyubEFLT0QJ:www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp%3Fid%3D1521846767-2671+bin+laden+tracked+satellite+phone+leaked+press&hl=en

Early September 2001: Bin Laden's Intercepted Phone Calls Discuss an Operation in the US Around 9/11 Date Complete 911 Timeline
According to British inside sources, “shortly before September 11,” bin Laden contacts an associate thought to be in Pakistan. The conversation refers to an incident that will take place in the US on, or around 9/11, and discusses possible repercussions. In another conversation, bin Laden contacts an associate thought to be in Afghanistan. They discuss the scale and effect of a forthcoming operation; bin Laden praises his colleague for his part in the planning. Neither conversation specifically mentions the WTC or Pentagon, but investigators have no doubt the 9/11 attacks were being discussed. The British government has obliquely made reference to these intercepts: “There is evidence of a very specific nature relating to the guilt of bin Laden and his associates that is too sensitive to release.” These intercepts haven't been made public in British Prime Minister Tony Blair's presentation of al-Qaeda's guilt because “releasing full details could compromise the source or method of the intercepts.”
People and organizations involved: al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, Tony Blair

September 6, 2001: Bin Laden Allegedly Informed of Exact Attack Date Complete 911 Timeline
According to a later interview with would-be hijacker Ramzi Bin al-Shibh, a courier sent by bin al-Shibh tells bin Laden on this day when the 9/11 attacks will take place. However, there are doubts about this interview (see April, June, or August 2002).
People and organizations involved: Osama bin Laden, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh

September 9, 2001: Osama Tells His Stepmother That Big News Will Come in Two Days Complete 911 Timeline
It is later reported that on this day, bin Laden calls his stepmother and says, “In two days, you're going to hear big news and you're not going to hear from me for a while.” US officials later tell CNN that “in recent years they've been able to monitor some of bin Laden's telephone communications with his mother. Bin Laden at the time was using a satellite telephone, and the signals were intercepted and sometimes recorded.” Stepmother Al-Khalifa bin Laden, who raised Osama bin Laden after his natural mother died, is apparently waiting in Damascus, Syria, to meet Osama there, so he calls to cancel the meeting. They had met periodically in recent years. Before 9/11, to impress important visitors, NSA analysts would occasionally play audio tapes of bin Laden talking to his stepmother. The next day government officials say about the call, “I would view those reports with skepticism.”
People and organizations involved: National Security Agency, Osama bin Laden, Al-Khalifa bin Laden

September 10, 2001: Intelligence Intercepts Show al-Qaeda Agents Ordered to Return to Afghanistan by This Date Complete 911 Timeline
In a major post-9/11 speech, British Prime Minister Tony Blair claims that “shortly before September 11, bin Laden told associates that he had a major operation against America under preparation, a range of people were warned to return back to Afghanistan because of action on or around September 11.” His claims come from a British document of telephone intercepts and interrogations revealing al-Qaeda orders to return to Afghanistan by September 10. However, Blair may have the direction incorrect, since would-be hijacker Ramzi Bin al-Shibh later claims that he is the one who passes to bin Laden the date the attacks will happen and warns others to evacuate.
People and organizations involved: Osama bin Laden, Tony Blair, al-Qaeda, Ramzi Bin al-Shibh

September 11, 2001: Planned Rice Speech on Threats Contains No Mention of al-Qaeda Complete 911 Timeline
National Security Adviser Rice is scheduled to deliver a speech claiming to address “the threats and problems of today and the day after, not the world of yesterday.” The speech is never given due to the 9/11 attacks earlier in the day, but the text is later leaked to the media. The Washington Post calls the speech “telling Insight into the administration's thinking” because it promotes missile defense and contains no mention of al-Qaeda, bin Laden, or Islamic extremist groups. The only mention of terrorism is in the context of the danger of rogue nations such as Iraq. In fact, there are almost no public mentions of bin Laden or al-Qaeda by Bush or other top Bush administration officials before 9/11, and the focus instead is on missile defense.
People and organizations involved: Osama bin Laden, Condoleezza Rice, Bush administration, Central Intelligence Agency, al-Qaeda


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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:15 PM
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1. So they had the knowledge but did nothing, then it was too late.
I can't even imagine how families who lost loved ones will feel about this. :-(
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:17 PM
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2. And they got some of that information
...from a raid on a company named InfoCom in Texas, an ISP. Bush had PLENTY of information via LEGAL, CONSTITUTIONAL means that could have prevented 9-11, but passing giveaways for his friends and family was more important to him, and besides, PNAC needed "another Pearl Harbor" to carry forth its agenda. All of this SHOULD run right through his entire administrations term. From his complicity and incompetence on 9-11, to the runup to invading Iraq, to the occupation, to his illegal spying, to the outing of Valerie Plame. High crimes, TREASON. Thousands of US citizens have died, and those that have not have had "the freedoms which 'they' hate us for" robbed of us by a petulant, arrogant, incurious frat-boy cheerleader twerp.
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TheGunslinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:19 PM
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3. It's almost like it's become a game to them.
See how far they can bend and break the rules and still get away with it in the press and in the public opinion.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 03:28 PM
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4. what was it? something like 23 seperate
warnings bushco had -- including this{?}.

as du has long maintained -- what more did they want?

they're spying for more reasons than terrorists -- good god -- serious terrorists would have figured they were being monitered -- so it wasn't terrorists they were after.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-19-05 04:26 PM
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5. I thought it was like 50-something?
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