The new freeper angle on Spygate - Democratic Underground

Can o Beans

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:07 AM
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The new freeper angle on Spygate

is that Carter and Clinton also spied on citizens without court orders. They are passing around some arcane act where Jimmy and Bill wrote that the courts could be bypassed if the AG approved the surveillance. Get ready for that all day today.

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tecelote

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:09 AM
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1. Debunked Here...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5655488

No electronic surveillance allowed.

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Can o Beans

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:12 AM
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4. Doesn't address Carter, but helps

with the BigDog. Thanks...

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Pirate Smile

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:33 AM
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5. Here you go - debunks the claim re Carter and Clinton.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/21/8157/6595

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Supersedeas

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:56 AM
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11. Exactly there is an electronic surveillance distinction

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liberal N proud

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:09 AM
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2. I got that from a repuke yesterday.

This guy said that all presidents have spied on us.

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C_U_L8R

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:11 AM
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3. Oh.... and that's supposed to make...

breaking the law okay...
just because all the other kids do it ???!!!!

What immature idiots these republicans aare proving to be !!!!

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Loonman

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:39 AM
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6. Not only a distortion, but idiotic reasoning

Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 09:39 AM by Loonman

"Clinton and Carter did it, so it's okay for Bush to do, too!"

Not even close, but the Bush-toady Mainstream Media and asswipes like Drudge don't know or care.

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formernaderite

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:45 AM
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7. traffic news this morning had a blurb about Jamie gorelick

arguing that the presidential powers included spying domestically on foreign calls. They're going full throttle with this...haven't had time to discern the differences yet.

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Loonman

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:48 AM
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9. Media is too damn lazy to present the distinction

The distinction between the different plans, and the reasoning for the implementation of the different plans.

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zbdent

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:45 AM
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8. Right, I remember Carter listening in on

cell phone conversations . . . :sarcasm:

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Loonman

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Wed Dec-21-05 09:53 AM
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10. Boortz too stupid to figure it out, either

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html

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