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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:13 AM
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"Is it just an accident we haven't been attacked in the last 4 years?"
Cheney asked?

But, as we recall, the WTC was attacked with a carbomb in early 1993. Clinton tracked down and put the criminals in jail and was hot on the trail of bin Laden when he left office. But there was never another attack (other than domestic) in the eight years he was in office. Was that just an accident, also?
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EarlG ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:17 AM
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1. Indeed
Was it just an accident that the WTC was attacked just one month after Poppy Bush left office, and then there wasn't another attack until Bush Jr. became president? And you're right - the original WTC bombers were caught and prosecuted. Where's bin Laden?
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:09 PM
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16. 5 weeks
Feb. 26, 2003 to be exact
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:17 AM
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2. Was it an accident we were attacked 4 years ago?
Did BushCo accidentally drop the intel ball that led to 911?
Guess accidents happen
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skylarmae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:18 AM
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3. was it an accident * sat and read and took pictures and 55 minutes
after being told "Mr. President, we are under attack". I don't think so. How could the President of the United States stay in an unprotected area for 55 minutes while the country is under attack,... unless it wasn't...
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:00 PM
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15. According to one of *'s stories
he had watched the live feed of the first plane hitting the towers . . . and decided, "Hey, I, the leader of the Free World (for now) should really do something Presidential, like go read to schoolkids for another half hour" . . . okay, I made that part up, but he did claim to have watched the live feed, and stated: "Gee, that's one terrible pilot" . . .
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:18 AM
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4. Our citizens are being attacked every goddamned day.
They've got targets on their backs and being told to occupy a nation that didn't attack us.

Islamic terrorists are delighted by the way things have turned out.

That's your answer.

When they come back with "But they're not HERE," just say, "We've become what we were fighting. That mission's accomplished already. The terrorists won."
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:21 AM
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5. the "guilt" of my childhood comes back in droves for thinking this...
(based on those long ago religious teachings), but damn I hate that man (Cheney) and BUsh* only slighly less so. :shrug:

Mandatory Qualification: For agent Mike, that is a visceral emotion that does not translate into any intent on doing or condoning harm.
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:22 AM
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6. Was it just an accident that we were attacked
on 9/11 just as the presidential approval ratings were going into the shitter? Hell, I can do conspiracy theories as well as penis cheney.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:25 AM
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7. I guess I just dreamed the anthrax killer, then
Never mind. Dick has all the answers.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:32 AM
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8. bull. what about the anthrax mailings?
I guess those don't count. hmmm.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 11:55 AM
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9. we are attacked every day in Iraq and Afghanistan
nt
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:06 PM
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10. Had a brain spasm last night - could it be
that the reason we haven't been attacked in 4 years is that we were never really attacked in the first place. That is it was an inside job? Therefore those who perpetrated the first strike are in control of when the next strike will happen. Not terrorists but CIA and DoD people.
Not sure if that is clear. The first attack wasn't done by terrorists but by the administration itself. Therefore they will decide when it is time for another 'attack'. They are in control of when 'attacks' happen.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:11 PM
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11. I like the way you think. nt
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:17 PM
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12. It was sort of like finding your hat on your head after you've looked
all over for it. It suddenly just seemed so obvious. They controlled the first attack. Osama is still out there to blame if and when they need another attack to scare the hell out of people and get them back in line. With the way things are going, it may not be long until we have one. No doubt some 'liberal' bastion like LA.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:06 PM
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18. "Osama is still out there to blame " --yes, that's why he/his body
has never turned up. Personally, I think he's dead. But we'll never know, unless we live 50 years into the future and (hopefully) read about what REALLY happened in the decade of the oughts.
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Hyernel Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:30 PM
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13. I remember thinking how strange it was that the second plane...
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 12:30 PM by Hyernel
...that hit the WTC was all alone in the air. Where were all the F-16s and other interceptors that should have been alongside in 20 mins?

Did Osama bin Laden somehow prank call NORAD and get them to delay their response, or even get them to stand down for the first hour, allowing 4 loaded jetliners to meander around the Eastern seaboard until they found their targets?

You're right! That's crazy talk. There no way Osama could have neutralized American air defense. So...who did?
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MrDale Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 12:36 PM
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14. or...
according to the neocons. the us was attacked 7 times while on clinton's and clinton was given bin laden only to turn away and not nab him ;-)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:12 PM
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17. WHY WERE WE ATTACKED 4 YEARS AGO?
A few months ago I was watching a report on "The attacks of 9/11" and thought what if one word was changed and it was referred to as "The failures of 9/11"? This is not blaming America (since no one blames anyone for anything anymore) this is just noticing the language used.

Now-where were the FISA warrants PRE-9/11? Didn't Ashcroft list pot and porn ahead of terrorism?
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:07 PM
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19. It was the night before 9-11 and all through the house
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 02:08 PM by donkeyotay
not a creature was stirring, not even a clue. Not a clue. Bush stole an election and put the great soon-to-be-president Condi in charge of national security (Who could have imagined?), Ashcroft was concerned with tits, pot and assisted suicide (but didn't trust commercial air travel), and commander bunny pants was on interminable vacation from falling polls and stock market.

Trifecta.

On edit: Silly me, it wasn't commander bunny pants then; it was the Education President.

Cheney was in an undisclosed location with a bunch of undisclosed people doing a bunch of undisclosed stuff.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:15 PM
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20. Umm....Anthrax?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:35 PM
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21. Yeah accident... Take your pick. LIHOP MIHOP or Ms Liar realized
that it was OK to consider that mean people would use aircraft as weapons in spite of the FACT that she already knew that it was considered through intelligence fed to us by other countries AND the FACT that George was protected at a meeting in Italy by everyone changing the venue when they learned that aircraft might be used as weapons during the meeting - and that was only a Few months before 9-11 AND the fact that she was handed an intelligence report saying that it was possible.

Yes, they said they would CHANGE OUR REALITY. They only succeeded with unthinking people who refuse to learn the FACTS. Others of us were taught to use our brains and some mof us have not been brainwashed with a complete logic and reason brain purge.

We have horrible people TRYING to rule us.
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Humor_In_Cuneiform Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:05 PM
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22. If not an accident, It ISN'T due to the current Administration's policies.
We haven't had another Katrina either.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 04:55 PM
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23. We have only been attacked when we had a Republican Congress
During the infamous forty year reign of the Democrats we were not attacked... Hmmmmmm.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:49 PM
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24. The bush/cheney malfunction team
haven't done anything to prepare in case we are. Eric Alterman has an excellent article in the Nation about this very subject..


snip~
" Again and again the Bush Administration has slashed Congressionally mandated funding for precautionary measures in the areas of port security and nuclear and chemical security. They withdrew troops and intelligence agents from Afghanistan, where they were tracking Osama bin Laden and a reconstituted Al Qaeda, in order to throw them into Iraq, where no terrorist threat existed. Together with the Republican majority in Congress, they have treated "homeland security" as a pork distribution program. What money is appropriated receives little or no oversight. Columbus, Ohio, is free to spend homeland security funds on bulletproof vests for fire department dogs; Newark, New Jersey, on air-conditioned garbage trucks; and the District of Columbia, on leather jackets and self-improvement seminars for sanitation workers."


Much more..
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060102/alterman

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 05:50 PM
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25. As time goes by, I'm more convinced it was a LIHOP. n/t
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 06:21 PM
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26. logical fallacy
it could just as well be the voodoo effect of my daily bong hit.

cheney offers no proof that the patriot act or FISA circumvention has prevented any attacks. if it had, they'd be trumpeting it at this point.
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