Don't these dumbasses know there really isn't enough oil in ANWR

Geological studies have showed that there could be enough oil in the Refuge to last Americans about 6months to tops 5 years. Of course it would take about 10 years for the oil to be available; not like there is a spigot there that we can turn on and off at will.

None of this is about independence from foreign oil. You want that then we need to have legislation pushing for more alternative energy sources and raising the CAFE standards to higher levels. These manuevers we could start NOW and would decrease our dependency.

Drilling in ANWR is like giving a heroin junkie 1-2 years worth of all the herion he could do but then when the supply runs out no more junk. Guess what, just because the supply isn't there anymore doesn't mean he won't still be craving it and doing dangerous things to obtain it.

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It's not about the oil - it's about who gets the drilling contracts and who owns any land thereabouts and what money they'll make on it, i.e., access roads, trucking firms, etc.

Redistribution from the public trust into the hands of the corporate few - hmm, corporate communism, anyone?

YOu mean they're *GASP* WRONG??

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f(&^%#ing teeth. And their damned minions believe 'cuz they're ignorant and proud of it.

/rant (for this second)

From what I understand, the oil in the Refuge is too high in sulfur for most US refineries. So, most of it would be shipped overseas. Some way to achieve energy independence. Nice way to destroy pristine wilderness.

It's going to China.

It's all Native or federal land, as is most of Alaska.

It's about more free money for Alaskans.

It's about kickbacks and low, low lease rates for oil companies who'll pay the scratch.

It's about lucrative seats on boards for Senators and Representatives weeks after they leave Congress.

It's about peddling the illusion of energy independence.

It's about the same old same old.

research into alternative fuels. There's something weird in this whole thing.

If the oil drillers really believed there was an end to their supply, they'd already be working on alternatives, don't ya think?

I don't think you can force any company to work on alternative fuel sources. I can see funding research, but that's about it.

Why not give tax cuts to companies that switch to alternative fuels? What not give a tax credit to people who buy hybrid cars.

No, you can't legislate it but you can intice it in a way that will get people wanting the product because they'll save money!

They told us in just so many words.

that is the new definition of republican

What a group!

They could care less about anything other tahn that. And, since Stevens and the oil companies have a lot of power - it will most likely happen.

A sign that the republicans know they only have a few remaining chances to get ANWR opened before they lose control of either the house and/or senate. Because once Reid and/or Pelosi get in control you'll never see that in anything. It was especially sleazy because the republicans packaged it so that it would affect military spending, veterans, the poor with their heating costs and of course Katrina victims. I mean how dare these democrats put the lives of a few reindeer and elk ahead of a poor family who can't afford their heating bills or the rebuilding of New Orleans.

But it was definately SLEAZY all around. Reid & the democrats need to come fighting back now with "Remove ANWR and we can finish off this bill today and head home for the holidays" because if they don't then ANWR will be overshadowed by the new 'meme' of democrats don't care for the military, veterans, poor who can't afford their heating bills, or the rebuilding of New Orleans.

Before it was BECAUSE WE HAVE A MANDATE AND WE CAN!

Now is it HURRY UP LETS DESTROY EVERYTHING BEFORE WE CAN'T

and environmental gains are like trophies they want to steal.

Not cause it wins them anything, but because in their insipid hearts they crave the delight of being spoilers. Not to win anything real, but only to deprive us of something.

Another important point about their attempts to drill in ANWR is that whatever acreage is allowed to be drilled according to the bill, that acreage doesn't have to be contiguous.

That means that you could take a half acre here and a quarter there, and in total end up despoiling a much larger number of acres of the ANWR.

It is, as is characteristic of how the GOP works nowadays, very very deceptive.