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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:39 PM
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Here's the voting breakdown for the Cloture
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 01:49 PM by LynneSin
I've bolded those names who crossed party lines (whether R or D)

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00364

Vote Summary

Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on the Conference Report to Accompany H.R. 2863 )
Vote Number: 364 Vote Date: December 21, 2005, 12:08 PM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Rejected
Measure Number: H.R. 2863 (Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2006 )
Measure Title: A bill making appropriations for the Department of Defense for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2006, and for other purposes.


Vote Counts: YEAs 56, NAYs 44



Grouped By Vote Position YEAs ---56
Akaka (D-HI) (not a suprise Hawaii always backs Alaska on this stuff)
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI) (see Akaka)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA) (Double whammy here because Louisiana is the oil industry and the Katrina package was in the bill. She had no choice but to support it)
Lott (R-MS)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-NE) (ANd people bitch about Lieberman)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)

NAYs ---44
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Frist (R-TN) (note: He didn't support us, this is a senate manuever so they can come back to revisit this. He would have voted "YES" if they had the votes to win)
Harkin (D-IA)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)
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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:46 PM
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1. also voting no: DeWine (R-OH)
:hi:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:54 PM
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4. fixed
thanks! I knew I was missing an "R" somewhere
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mymomwasright Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:48 PM
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2. Four Dems voted for it
Including Mary Landreau (Louisiana). :(

Akaka (HI)
Inyoue (HI)
Nelson (NE)

were the others who voted for.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:53 PM
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3. My commentary on the 4 senators
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 01:54 PM by LynneSin
Akaka and Inyoue are two of the most liberal senators in DC but there is some bizarre connection with Alaska & Hawaii that they tend to have each other's backs since they're the 2 states way out there and not part of the mainland.

Nelson really is the most conservative democrat in the senate even though everyone at DU thinks is Lieberman. But it's Nebraska so I'm not sure what to think about that one.

Mary Landrieu was between a rock & a hard place on this vote. Remember there was a much needed Katrina spending bill that her state desparately needs so voting against it would really put her in the shits in a state where conservatives have figured out to win statewide. Plus Louisana's main industry is the Oil business and I'm sure they would have benefit from drilling in Alaska. I'm sure Harry Reid was aware of her vote (and the Hawaiin senators) and told her to vote what was best for her state under the circumstances of the destruction it received this past year.

oh, and edit note: Welcome to DU :hi:
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:26 PM
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11. excellent analysis... n/t
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:56 PM
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19. Hi mymomwasright!!
Welcome to DU!!
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:55 PM
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5. Why is Hawaii so ANWR friendly???
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 01:59 PM
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6. It's an Alaska/Hawaii thingie
It's some sort of unwritten promise that they would always have each others backs. Remember, these 3 of these 4 senators have been serving for decades and the 4 is the daughter of the 4th senator who served just as long.

Hawaii and Alaska sometimes get neglected because they aren't on the continential US. I read about this a few year ago about why Hawaii supports ANWR drilling. It was kinda bizarre to understand especially knowing that Inouye and Akaka are 2 of the most liberal senators in DC.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:02 PM
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8. Ahhhhhh
So it's a pact thing, damn. Thanks for the explanation.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:19 PM
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9. No problem, although I'm not sure if even I made sense
but it was pretty much explained as a "We have your back if you have ours".

Oh and welcome to DU :hi:
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:31 PM
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12. I posted in another thread ...
there is also the military defense appropriations which both states rely on and there is a synergistic ties among the indigenous peoples betweeen the two states... i sometimes wonder if there isn't also a subrosa political alliance in that regard.. (?)

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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:42 PM
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15. I think as long as it's something that affects the state...
..they'll have each other backs. But saying this it's fair to say that Akaka & Inouye are 2 of the most liberal senators in DC and Stevens is one of the most conservative. As for Murkowski, she's conservative like her dad since I can almost guarentee he tells her how to vote.
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SeattleVet Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:00 PM
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7. So Frist voted for it, before he voted against it, before...
he voted for it again, before he voted against it again?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:24 PM
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10. Senate Manuever, trust me, he was voting "YES" but he needed to go "NO"
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 02:25 PM by LynneSin
When voting on cloture the only way you can revisit it is if someone from the "NO" group says they want to reopen and reconsider the vote.

Now you have 41 democrats who are very committed to protecting ANWR and I highly doubt that any of them will change their minds. Chaffee and DeWine are your only 2 republicans and Chaffee is very pro-environment so I don't think he'd ask to revisit. DeWine is a toss-up - not sure why he voted "NO" but I can assure you that every democrat here at DU is appreciated of his vote.

So knowing that you have 43 senators who probably aren't going to change their minds, how do you save this vote incase you COULD get someone to change their mind or even just continue the debate in hopes of pulling "MEME" on c-span about how democrats are blocking funds for Katrina, heating bills, veterans, etc. If anything I think it's really a ploy to re-open the vote in hopes of getting some soundbytes for the evening news because more than likely the main voters will not change their minds but maybe those evening news soundbytes might help put some pressure on the borderline ones.

So the easiest thing to do is change your vote at the last minute from "YES" to "NO" because the one person that Frist can trust the most is himself - when they're ready to try again he'll make the motion.

Had the vote been 50-49 in favor of democrats Frist would have definately voted "NO" because he knew Cheney had his back
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SeattleVet Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:35 PM
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13. Oh, I know that. It's just a handy way to keep score and
Edited on Wed Dec-21-05 02:36 PM by SeattleVet
throw the voting record back at them.

We just need to keep making the point that Frist is a major flip-flopper. Sort of the way they threw it at Kerry, who voted for a bill before changes were made in it, then voted against it.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:40 PM
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14. You're not throwing anything back at him
He voted "yes" but then voted "no" because he wanted to keep the bill alive so that he would have another chance to vote "YES" on it.

Frist isn't running again for US Senate and I don't think he's a strong candidate for president so we really don't have much there. And he could probably easily throw out other examples of party leaders doing the same exact thing when they were on the losing end of the battle.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:48 PM
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16. Love to see this man do some time in prison for fraud.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 02:48 PM
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17. Landrieu's yes vote is forgivable
because the bill also funds relief for Katrina victims. She was thinking of them, not of ANWR.
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 03:24 PM
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18. A no-brainer for Landrieu
If Landrieu voted against the billions for Katrina she'd be dead meat in her next election. She did the right thing by voting in the best interest of her people and that's what a representative is supposed to do.
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