Will the GOP ever give up on ANWAR? What part of no do they not understand

? Every time I blink the gop is trying to get drilling in our wild life reserve by a back door.

Have they given up on trying to destroy social security since it was passed? Public education? Every other public service that doesn't directly aid corporations?

Screw wildlife, these people have Mercedes almost a year old that are in desperate need of upgrading.

for 25 years! I guess that's why he was sooo pi**ed off the other day. I'm sure he thought he was finally going to get his way this time!!!!

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I was reading this somewhere yesterday, either my local paper or on-line. Apparantly 25 years ago (1981) Stevens cut a deal with 2 Democratic Senators Paul Tsongas and another Senator whom I can't rememmber his name. If he would vote to preserve 19 million acres of land 9not sure where), they would agree to vote to allow drilling in ANWR. Apparantly both Senators died before a vote could ever come up on ANWR and their replacements either did not agree to this or soemthing else happened, i'm not sure what as the article did not say.

At any rate he feels that his deal should still stand and it is a debt that must be repaid to him.

Kind of shows you his perspective, it really has nothing to do with what is best for America, rather he is most concerned that he got "hood-winked" in a deal (even though apparantly 2 peoles deaths were what allowed that to happen).

Maybe someone should send him a copy of The Road Warrior where the one guy says, "If you had a deal with him, it died with him".

Some *-God fanboi on another site is a one-man propaganda tour pushing for the "benefits" of drilling in ANWR and mentions that it's been passed many a time in the House and/or Senate but never both. They just don't get it. Pushing bad legislation ad nauseum is wrong for this country.

:argh: especially as long as Ted Stevens is breathing still.
He is one little determined critter.

I am sure they will go after it again and again.
Maybe bu$h will just sign an executive order over Christmas break, calling it an emergency or some stupid thing his sheeple would believe.
I am sure the Oil Lobby is pissed today and they will retaliate in some fashion.

The oil companies don't hire GOP lawmakers to sit around whining, they hire them to push the oil agenda. It's a small part of the oil budget, it will pay off big one day when they finally pass it, and there are plenty of Republicans with their hands out to do the oil company bidding.

It's like everything else they do. That's what we don't fully understand. We got exhausted fighting the same old battles all the time, because we all have our regular jobs, and we have to spend our spare time fighting old Republican threats along with new ones. The Republicans get enough corporate money to just hire people to fight these fights--lawyers, lobbyists, PR folk, "think" tanks, etc. They don't have to do it in their spare time, it is their job, and they are paid well for it. And when they burn out, or grow up and get a conscience, some new hand-out Repub will fill the breach.

We have a tough battle, but we also have souls, and that's something most Republicans don't even understand they've lost.

If the oil coming out of Alaska is so vital to our nation's economy or security, then why doesn't Congress simply pass a law requiring the oil companies to send all the oil currently coming out of Alaska to the United States, rather than selling it for more money on the Asian market? I seem to recall that last quarter the oil companies did pretty well, Exxon alone clearing more than $10 billion on hopped-up pump prices.

If we're really at war, can't the oil companies cut back just a smidgen, and join the rest of us in sacrificing for the greater good in the Global War On Terror? Their Chinese and Japanese buyers might have to go somewhere else for their petro fix, but where are the oil companies' loyalties? To the U.S. which provides them a favorable environment for doing business or to their own bottom line? C'mon Sen. Stevens! If your oil company overlords are helping share the load, I'll see what more I can do.

Handle it the way Carter did where the citizens of the state of Alaska get a hefty cut of the profits every year.

Cause if we don't, then when the Republicans DO get this in place, you can bet they will give Exxon a 99 year lease for those oil fields for $1. And that ain't $1 a barrel. Or even $1 a year. That's just $1 for the entire 99 years.

What part of no do they not understand?

The 'n' and the 'o'

I have a brother who lives up in Alaska, and they got a pretty good deal going for the current oil production.

I know the caribou like the pipeline also.

But I understand why people would be against it also.

did you hear that from a spokes-caribou?

So I can't say for sure! :)

They like to mate near the pipe, it is warmer there apparently.

It's great to have you with us! And thanks for the info! LOL!:hi:

NO

I've read here that there is only about 6 months worth of oil in ANWR and that the oil that is there has such a high sulfur content it can't be used in the U.S. and will have to be sold to China.

My question is, why push for 20 years for 6 months worth of oil? What else is there to them getting into ANWR and drilling? What is this the "edge of the wedge" for? Even Steven's snit doesn't explain it. He may carry a vendetta for 20 years, but his constituants continue to vote him back into office. Trying to break the back of the environmental movement? What is key about ANWR? 20 Years? There's something here that we've completely missed.

Can you say Chief Justice Roberts? It sticks in the craw but I know you can. If they can't get laws passed they'll go to the courts. Roberts past writings indicate that he considers the ESA unconstitutional. I expect a full court press, by and by. Activist judiciary, indeed!