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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:24 PM
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How long before the Bush surveillance....
taps into young men and women of draft age

is made available to local law enforcement to pick up criminals

is linked with the IRS

is linked with child support

is made available to civil service employment offices

results in erroneous arrests

tracks consumer preferences

remain solely in the hands of the military?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:26 PM
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1. don't you think that all of that is already happening?
Edited on Fri Dec-23-05 08:28 PM by flordehinojos
it was already happening when we learned that they were spying on people without court warrants.
with the bush dictatorship we learn things after they have happened...and we are usually told a pack of lies that makes themselves look benevolent human beings, which, they are not!
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:28 PM
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2. What I think and what we 'know' are two different things
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:30 PM
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3. that is the point of the edit i made (while you were answering my initial
question)...and that is, that we learn of what bush has done retroactively, after the fact, and usually we are told packs of lies that make them look good and benevolent. they are neither good, benevolent nor honest...some of this is already happening although we do not have a factual knowledge of it.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:33 PM
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4. Were you spying on me? :)
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 01:40 AM
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11. LOL!
Edited on Sat Dec-24-05 01:42 AM by flordehinojos
...:7 give me a break!!:D of course not! or, was i? }(
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 03:18 PM
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12. Just kidding...:)
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:33 PM
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5. Security bogged down with useless info
You have to look at the debacle of 9/11 and the amount of crud that was collected and used never used and good info that didn't get analyzed. The intelligence agencies needed to update and still do. A lot of the stuff they waste time on is preventing them getting the real baddies.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:38 PM
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6. I agree. It seems to me most of this is nothing but flotsam..BUT...
the privacy issue is huge with or without legal or criminal concerns. Very disturbing.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:49 PM
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7. Spent all that time on health privacy (HIPAA)
We know what they are up to and now that the ship is sinking they are kicking it up a notch.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 08:52 PM
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8. Such a deal. Blow all privacy out the window using the DOD.
How cool is that if you're a republican.
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Aimah Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:00 PM
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9. Mini LTTE Repub ok with Surveillance
In the Indianapolis Star there is an anonymous section called Let It Out. It allows people to make random quips on just about anything. Heres one persons take on the surveillance:



"Doesn't bother me if the government listens in on my phone. I seldom use it and have nothing to hide. Plus, their agents will be falling asleep listening to my wife yak on and on. But liberals and traitors, beware."

Although it's called the Indianapolis Star and Indianapolis is liberal for the most part a lot of the readers are from outside of our Safe Zone.

The next remark gives another perception:

"I love these comments from right-wingers saying they wouldn't mind the government listening in on their phone calls. These are the same folks who refuse to put their Social Security number on any official document."

I'd have to agree with the 2nd.

Here's a link for all of the random comments (most have nothing to do with the surveillance)
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051223/LIVING04/512230307/1086
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-23-05 09:03 PM
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10. As I said in another post, everyone has something to hide.
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