Diebold problems in Ohio? Yep.. In Florida? Yep.. --BUT ALASKA !?!?

I wanted to post this a couple days ago, but I got into a bummer of an accident (don't worry.. it wasn't my fault!!)

Anyway.. with foot in cast, I made it down the steps and just had to pass this on (and I'll post the article on the elections section as well)

The Anchorage Daily News reported 2 days ago that ----(are you ready for this)..???

---> Out of the 292,267 votes tabulated for Bush... 101,378 VOTES DID NOT GO TO HIM!!

Anchorage Daily News requires a quick freebie registration (I think?), but here's the jest of the article found @ http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/7301446p-7213196c.html
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LONG GONE ELECTION: Tabulation method, reliability of machines are doubted.

By LISA DEMER
Anchorage Daily News
Published: December 20, 2005

"The official vote results from the 2004 general election are riddled with mistakes and discrepancies, are impossible for the public to make sense of, and should be corrected as soon as possible, the Alaska Democratic Party says."

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"For instance, when district-by-district vote counts are totaled, President Bush received 292,267 votes, according to an analysis by the Democrats. But his official total was 190,889, a difference of more than 100,000 votes, according to the state Web site."

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"The Democrats are raising questions just as Diebold Election Systems Inc., the controversial company that provides the state's electronic voting machines, comes under new fire, according to published reports. Two groups of investors have sued the parent company, Diebold Inc., accusing it of trying to conceal problems with its voting machines."

"Efforts to speak with a Diebold company representative late Monday were unsuccessful"

And how about this for some of the LOCAL races...

"In addition, more than 200 percent of the registered voters in some districts cast ballots, which should be impossible."

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The GOOD news is that while Alaska uses a Diebold Accuvote Scanner, we also use a paper ballot filled out by each voter so we have an actual system in place if recounts are required. Not a receipt, an actual paper ballot.

The investigation should reveal some interesting results ... They haven't mentioned yet if they'll also investigate the U.S. Senate race. In that race, Democrat Tony Knowles was ahead in every single poll ever taken for 12 straight months, and yet Lisa Murkowski wound up winning by a pretty big margin.

We'll see!

In any event.. even in the Land of the Midnight Sun... the Last Frontier... the Great White North... DIEBOLD has reared it's ugly head.

still fighting for fair elections!!

I just scanned their site and don't see it on there.. Looks like they like posting actual newspaper articles that have to do with Diebold and scams?

I'm not registered there.. but if there's a way to pass on the article, I can log in and pass it along..

:shrug:

BradBlog or Dzika and send it to them that way. Also, you could post it under one of the articles already there and Brad will see it. Good luck!

This snowball effect is stunning.

Hope you're okay! :pals:

:hug:

Some guy was backing into a parking spot and another guy came up and tried to steal it from him. The guy who had been backing up got ticked off BIG TIME and while still looking in his rearview mirror at the other guy, he put the petal to the metal, gunning it forward and ramming into me and my dog.. Fortunately only my foot went under his wheel when I went down. I felt bad for him that the guy was stealing his spot, but the cops who showed up said "you should be pissed at him, that was uncalled for road rage"

Oh well.. I'm just glad my dog didn't get hit too!! I'll be fine.. just can't play hockey for a few weeks..

As far as the recount, I know they're at least doing the presidential race.. Maybe if it's as off whack as they think it is, they'll do the U.S. Senate too!!

:hug:
Yikes! I'm glad it wasn't more than your foot. Still that's awful :( Glad your pup was unscathed.

If the Prez numbers were off by 100,000, I can't think that the Senate race wasn't also tampered with.
Alaska could be in for some nice changes. :)

... And the rest of the country?...

And how he got elected.

And their other genius senator.

state to state. nv, colorado, nm, iowa, ohio, florida, texas, the southern states. even when the state was obviously oging to og red, they took votes. wanted to make sure the same thing didnt happen that happened in 2000 with gore getting the popular vote

I know.. it sounds like a crazy question when you think about the type of people they seem to be...

But the investigations and lawsuits are piling up, and I'm just wondering if they'll be so daring and bold to let the machines do the counting again in 2006??

Will they back off.. or are they in this to manipulate and steal no matter what?

theorists. and judges do what they did in ohio. and repug governors totally ignore law and get away with it, and dont have real recounts.

yes i think they will do it again and again and again

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The district-by-district report appears to be full of quirks, Brown said. The Democrats added all of the votes cast for Bush or Democrat John Kerry by district and came up with thousands more votes than in the official summary. Some local races were off too. In a Fairbanks Senate race, Democrat Rita Allee earned 5,366 votes, according to the district-by-district report, but just 4,854 in the summary report, Brown said.

In addition, more than 200 percent of the registered voters in some districts cast ballots, which should be impossible.

There are explanations for the kooky numbers, Brewster and Growden said.

First, the Municipality of Anchorage had a special election at the same time as the state general election. If a voter cast ballots in both elections, the electronic ballot scanners counted each as if from a separate voter.

"There is no way to trick the tabulation system into counting that as anything but two votes cast," Brewster said.

Plus, the state pushed early voting, when voters can go to certain spots before Election Day to vote.

The catch is that those ballots were totaled in each of the state's four election regions, not reported by House district. The regional total shows up on the state reporting form in every district.

For instance, in Anchorage's House District 13, the state reported that 5,865 ballots were cast in early voting for the U.S. Senate race, the same as in District 14, 15 and every one of the 20 districts in the Southcentral region. The Southcentral region includes districts 13 through 32, so the early voting number was repeated 19 extra times.

Therefore, if someone adds up all the vote totals, including early voting totals, in many races, the number will be inflated.

"If you don't have a degree in mathematics or engineering, it will always be confusing," said Randy Ruedrich, chairman of the Alaska Republican Party, who said he's asked the state to change its format next time around.

Brown said it shouldn't be so complicated or confusing.

"You have to add things together and back things out to get to the statewide summary and make it all match," Brown said.

The division essentially says "trust us." That is why the Democrats are asking for data so they can check it all themselves, she said.

The Democrats are not asserting that anyone hacked into the computers or that anyone who lost a race really should have won, Brown said.

"We are trying to determine how many votes each candidate got in each district, and we can't tell that from the public data," she said.

pnorman

And thanks for that other link. By now, we should all realize that almost ANY election "anamoly" is cause for suspicion. But we have to proceed systematically, or we'll get in trouble.

pnorman

Cautiously and meticulously! :patriot: :hug:

Isn't he rated as the 49th least popular governor only after Ohio's Taft who is in the single digits, and didn't he just say something like if he were to run again he would guarantee he would win? My friend up there told me something like that..

Diebold. Elected state Dems are rare and Denny White just took off so nothing doing at the political state level. Meanwhile, not even Taft's FAMILY supports him but we'll probably still get a repug type for gov in Nov. And so it goes!

Sorry to hear about your foot, at least it's not serious and your pup didn't get hurt.
Anything is plausible nowadays with thugs in charge of diebold machines. You know what we really needs? We need to have another Boston tea party! Round up all the diebold machines and throw it over bord in the river!!! Like this! http://www.votersunite.org/takeaction/bbballot-porttownsend.htm

The American vote count is controlled by three major corporate players, Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia, and a fourth, SAIC, Science Applications International. All four are hard-wired into the Bush power structure, the Bush crime family. They have been given millions of dollars by the Bush regime to complete a sweeping computerization of voting machines that were just used in the 2004 election. The technology involved had a trial run during the 2002 mid-term elections. Georgia had Diebold machines in every precinct. As a result, a popular Democratic governor and senator were both unseated in what the media called an "amazing" 16 percent swing.

Diebold's Walden O'Dell, a top Bush fundraiser, publicly committed himself to delivering his home state Ohio's votes to Bush. At Diebold, the election division is run by Bob Urosevich. Bob's brother, Todd, is a top executive at "rival" ES&S. The brothers were originally staked by Howard Ahmanson, a member of the Council For National Policy, a right-wing steering group stacked with Bush true believers. Ahmanson is also one of the bagmen behind the extremist Christian Reconstruction Movement, which advocates the theocratic takeover of American democracy.

The four companies are interconnected; they are not four "competitors." Ahmanson has large stakes in ES&S, whose former CEO was Republican Senator Chuck Hagel of Nebraska. When Hagel ran for office, his own company counted the votes, and his victory was considered "an amazing upset." Hagel still has a million dollar stake in ES&S.

Sequoia is the corporate parent of a private equity firm, Madison Dearborn, which is partner in the Carlyle Group.

Meanwhile, SAIC is referred to a "shadowy defense contractor." They have gotten into the vote count game both directly and through spinoffs by its top brass, including Admiral Bill Owens, former military aide to Dick Cheney, and Carlyle Group honcho Frank Carlucci and ex-CIA chief Robert Gates. SAIC's history of fraud charges and security "lapses" haven't prevented it from becoming one of the largest Pentagon and CIA contractors, and will doubtless encounter few obstacles in its entrance into the vote counting business.

The mad rush to install these unverifiable computers is driven by the Help America Vote Act, signed by Bush. The chief lobbying group pushing for the act was a consortium of arms dealers including Northrup Grumman and Lockheed Martin.

When you hear people saying, 'take a deep breath, we will pull through this,' 'we need to work harder,' 'we need to organize'-no. We will not. It's over. Unless electronic vote tabulation is history, and these companies are driven out of business, it's their country. Not ours.

Nobody knows, and no one will ever know, what the actual vote count was. There are no checks and balances left. The US Senate now has 55 of these Republicans. When they hit 60, which is what will happen in 2006 mid-term elections -- trust me -- that means that no matter what Bush and the crime family want to do, they can do it. The House is gone for the next two to five generations. It's gone.

The last thing rational people in this country need right now is this whistling-past-the-graveyard horse hockey. Nothing is going to happen; it's going to get worse. There will never again be a legitimate election in this county. Until we get rid of the machines.

(Quoted from Mike Malloy, Nov 3 2004)
just thought I would pass this along as many people are still unaware!