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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:13 AM
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Ohio bill "brings us frighteningly close to a show me your papers society"
Bill Would Allow Arrests For No Reason In Public Place
Citizens Would Also Have To Show ID

UPDATED: 7:22 pm EST December 19, 2005

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/5580743/detail.html

CLEVELAND -- A bill on Gov. Bob Taft's desk right now is drawing a lot of criticism, NewsChannel5 reported. One state representative said it resembles Gestapo-style tactics of government, and there could be changes coming on the streets of Ohio's small towns and big cities.

The Ohio Patriot Act has made it to the Taft's desk, and with the stroke of a pen, it would most likely become the toughest terrorism bill in the country. The lengthy piece of legislation would let police arrest people in public places who will not give their names, address and birth dates, even if they are not doing anything wrong.

WEWS reported it would also pave the way for everyone entering critical transportation sites such as, train stations, airports and bus stations to show ID. "It brings us frighteningly close to a show me your papers society," said Carrie Davis of the ACLU, which opposes the Ohio Patriot Act.

There are many others who oppose the bill as well. "The variety of people who opposed to this is not just a group of the usual suspects. We have people far right to the left opposing the bill who think it is a bad idea," said Al McGinty, NewsChannel5’s terrorism expert. McGinty said he isn't sure the law would do what it's intended to do. "I think anything we do to enhance security and give power to protect the public to police officers is a good idea," he said. "It is a good law in the wrong direction."

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:17 AM
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1. Everything is fine .... move along ..... nothing to see here
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:39 AM
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2. concerned ohioan here..does anyone know who sponsored this bill?
I can't find anything on this and would really like to know.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:46 AM
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3. ACLU Info:
Edited on Sat Dec-24-05 10:48 AM by Bush_Eats_Beef
Ohio General Assembly Passes Patriot Act:
ACLU Urges Governor Taft to Veto Bill

Wednesday, December 15, 2005

Yesterday, in the final hours before the holiday recess, the Ohio General Assembly voted to pass the Ohio Patriot Act.

Despite mounting pressure from the public, the amended bill passed the House in a vote of 69-23. It was then sent to the Senate to approve amendments made by the House. The Senate passed the bill by a vote of 29-2 and will now be sent to Governor Taft.

A vocal bipartisan minority in the House and two Ohio Senators voted against the Ohio Patriot Act, and they are to be commended. Also deserving of praise are all those who took action and repeatedly urged elected officials to oppose the Ohio Patriot Act. Thank you.

We still need your help! The Governor will soon decide whether to sign or veto the Ohio Patriot Act.

Contact Governor Taft and urge him to veto the Ohio Patriot Act.
Phone: (614) 466-3555
E-mail: Click here
Click here for the action alert with sample language

Read the ACLU of Ohio press release on passage of SB 9 go»
See how members of the General Assembly voted on the Ohio Patriot Act go»
Please contact your officials to thank them for voting against the Patriot Act, or to scold them for voting in favor of it.

If you contact Governor Taft or your legislators, please let us know by e-mailing contact@acluohio.org. Your help is greatly appreciated.

http://www.acluohio.org/issues/safe_&_free/sb9.htm

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 10:53 AM
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4. People who are real threats WILL have the correct papers
This bill assures full employment for those who forge, falsify, or sell documents.

Also paves the way for the day a cirizen can be stripped of citizenship and rights. Will end up being Pay to Play America.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:01 AM
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5. Exactly!
Welcome to the newest nightmare.

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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:25 AM
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6. Just another ploy to require and sell ID cards by the state
And a blatant dodge of the probable cause law.

I'm in OH and I'm not happy

At all
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 11:27 AM
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7. No more visits to Ohio for me...even though all my relatives are there
they will have to come visit me instead
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 01:30 PM
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8. I was wrong to have thought so highly of Ohio. The state is
turning into a cesspool of political corruption. Where are the good people in Ohio? Why are they trying to clean up the state?
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-24-05 01:50 PM
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9. the TV station's "terrorist expert"
said it was "a good law in the wrong direction." No, it is a legislative mechanism for fascist terror: there can be no part of it that is good.
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