DU this poll

and do it.

Give a fake email address. Mine was fuckyounewsmax@bushsux.com

:)

to use that email and they have blocked it. I had to alter it a bit

Since I'm already on their e-mail list and since I already get their "great" offers I'll go ahead and vote in their stupid poll. I do enjoy their e-mails excoriating the "leftist" media and those dang Hollywood liberals while trying to sell me Ann Coulter's lastest tome. Somedays, they are the funniest e-mails I get.

If the results aren't pro-RW enough they will act as if this poll never happened.

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Say you voted for Shrub in '04... ;)

Wow. president@whitehouse.gov has already voted...guess I'll have to use pickles@whitehouse.gov...

I said I had voted for dubya.

But I'm sitting here waiting for someone to report the results..

So what are they? http://eliteleague.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/lol!.gif

Typical Republican greed over any other value.

Here is a book they are selling with the offer:
Pray and Be Rich Tape Program
Value $49.95

What good are the results if you only poll folks who will play an email game?

and you won't get their email.

This should weed out all of the gullible folks, for sure.

Newsmax will keep emailing you even if you try to stop it.

and can get your full identification from your ISP. He doesn't want to waste time checking up on everyone, only those who question his "authority."

I'd probably be thrown into a dank hole somewhere in Uzbekistan.

They've had my IP since Dec. 12, 2001 when I sent a letter via the rnc website telling them that Georgie was not and would never be my president. I also told them that he was nothing short of a lazy slackard who would run our country, like he has his companies, into the ground. I asked them then "who will bail us out" after his tenure. Oh yeah, I signed the letter with my full name, address, phone number and e-mail address. So did my husband.

Then again, they should have a pretty good file on me and my family members by now. My mom became politically active in the 60's when she contested an election in federal court (she won and took her seat). She was also in contact with people who took over the BIA on the "Trail of Broken Treaties" and raised money to help send some people there. Later she became involved with the American Indian Movement including collecting blankets, clothes, food and cash for the stand-off at Wounded Knee and later helped raise money for their defense. Needless to say she was politically active and her AIM involvement also meant visits from people Dennis Banks and Russell Means to our home. Mom and dad also went to anti-war rallies during the Viet Nam era, sometimes they took us with them. So my family was "marked" early.

During the 80's my husband was arrested protesting a nuclear power plant. I was involved with several anti-nuke groups, AIM and anti-apartheid efforts. In the 90's I carried on the family AIM tradition by having a small dinner party at my house with the Belacourt Boys, Russell, Dennis, Suzanne Harjo, and several other Indian activists the evening before heading out to the Chiefs-Redskins game at Arrowhead Stadium the Sunday before Columbus Day in 1992. I also took in Kathy Peltier, Leonard's daughter, for a couple of months when she had a falling out with the LPDC. I knew Kathy because I knew her dad. I met Leonard in Leavenworth when I was working with both the Indian Spirituality group (helping to arrange pow-wows and getting Elders in to visit prisoners) and when I helped recruit some fellow law students to do legal research for Indian prisoners. I've done lots of activities that our government may say were questionable and spent a lot of people who have been tagged as suspicious in my life.

Since this little weasel has assumed office I have made appointments and met with my elected officials (both sides of the aisle) and have openly questioned Bush's authority, methods and legitimacy. I've been urging my Democratic congressman since 2001 to participate in impeachment proceedings. I've met with Pat Roberts' assistant Chad Tenpenny and asked about the lies leading to the Iraqi War. I've also left materials concerning impeachment of Bush at Roberts office. I've sent e-mails to my congressmen and dozens of others. I've also made several hundred phone calls, I've written letters, I've signed petitions on-line and off-line, I've gone to "take back" (media and America) conferences, I was a delegate to the DNC, I've been posting about this joke of a pResident since he came on the scene, and I've attended as many anti-war and anti-Bush rallies as I can. So, if they've got my IP now, good for them. I will continue to act as a patriotic American until the day I die. Fuck 'em. I refuse to live in fear.

but only in a political activist kind of way.

:hi:

you loved me for my mind. At least what's left of it. :crazy:

...and where does intelligence begin?

What's the difference between throwing caution to the wind and being a sucker?

For me, I prefer to question things.

I guess it depends on what you fear and how you deal with the fear you have in your life. Some people fear things over which they have no control such as growing old so spend their lives being unhappy and looking for every sign of age. Some people fear things that they can't see and let that fear control them. Fear can disrupt your mental clarity to the point it paralyzes and poisons every decision and action you make. Fear of things you can't see, know or don't understand can lead to a whole host of other fears, like the fear of death; fear of being separated from people you love; fear of losing control; fear of losing your reputation; fear of commitment; fear of failure; fear of rejection; fear of losing your job - once you become fearful of one aspect in your life it becomes easier to transfer that fear to other areas of your life. This is what the Republicans live for and it is how they have been able to get away with so much especially since 9/11. If they can make you afraid to express your opinion - whether it is an on-line poll, an e-mail or a phone call to a friend - then they've won. They've shut you down, shut you up and shut you (and your voice) out.

As for using intelligence to combat your fear of participating in on-line polls but first, a few comments.

Have you ever expressed your opinion by voting in an on-line poll? If you have then your IP was registered and information gathered that can be traced to you via your IP. A lot of websites also allow you to run software so that the webmaster can see where you surfed in from. Some websites also log where you surf off to when you leave their site. In fact, did you know that your internet provider can tell when you are on-line, what web pages you're looking at and who you have sent/received e-mails to/from.

If you do vote in an on-line poll are you voting on a "fly-by-night" page or one that has been around a while? In this instance Newsmax.com is a known conservative website. It has been around a while. They ask for your e-mail so they can send you their daily e-mail. They don't bombard you with e-mail because they don't want to scare you off. Yeah, once in a while they will send an ad out promoting the latest tome from "great" conservative thinkers like Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly or they'll try to sell you copies of Reagan's speeches, a Reagan coffee mug or a Reagan mousepad, so what? I can either have my spam filter automatically send their trash to the trash or I can read it and laugh. I actually like getting the e-mail. They provide some of the best laughs of the day. I like getting it because it gives me an idea what the RW talking points are for that day. Nothing like having them tell me what crap they are going to be spewing. I especially like their "west coast" editions where they explain how Barbra Streisand is the liberal leader that we all bow down to and what's she's doing to destroy America. Although I am still fond of how they try to defend BushCo or one of their right wing ideologues.

Did you know that if you have ever voted in a cnn.com or msnbc.com or other MSM poll that they have placed a cookie on your computer to track you? They do this to try to prevent you from voting more than once in their polls.

Are they asking you for a credit card number? No, they just want your e-mail. They'll want your credit card number later when you order their fabulous line of merchandise. :eyes:

Why vote in polls? Because it lets them know how people feel about an issue. It also helps influence some of the MSM reporters. They want ratings. To get ratings you give people what they want. If they are interested in the economy they will do more stories on the economy. If there is a lot of response in a poll concerning Tom DeLay, then they think, "Hey, we should do more stories on Tom DeLay and his scandals because people seem to be interested in that."

How to protect yourself and still participate in these polls on wacky RW websites: Get a hotmail or yahoo address that you use for occasions such as these. This way you'll have a semi-legitimate e-mail that you can check if you want. You'll also have one you can ignore or let it lapse. I would recommend signing up for one instead of just filling in something willy-nilly on the website because you might accidentally sign up some innocent person's real e-mail address. I've watched a friend's website while he was gone. This included checking his webmaster mail. Every once in a while he would get an e-mail from someone whose e-mail had been submitted as a subscriber to my friend's website but they hadn't done it. After doing some investigation - i.e., checking which IP was associated with the phony e-mail addresses and seeing a pattern we blocked that IP (it was static). After a couple of days the offender made contact and we explained the problem (phony e-mail addresses for him were real e-mail addresses for others) and he stopped.

I also question everything. I also have a good understanding of the risks of my actions (a law school education can do that) and the limitations of my fears. I understand that every time I cruise the internet someone could find out where I've gone; I understand that the phone company knows when I'm on the phone and who I'm talking to; I understand that every time I purchase gas or go to the grocery store that there is a surveillance camera; I understand that remaining anonymous in our society is increasingly difficult. I also understand that I can't live my life in fear that someone may be watching me. I just hope, if they exist, that they're enjoying the show. I would rather focus on fears that I feel passionately about and try to do something about them. For example, I have a fear that we are getting to the point of no return on various issues like the environment and in global politics. These fears
outweigh any fear I have for myself personally. I know that either my life will be spent doing what is right or it will be spent being hemmed in by my fears. Right now my biggest fear is for the future, our collective futures but especially the futures of my nieces, nephews and step-kids. I also fear for the kids down the street and across the world. What kind of future are we leaving them? Well, I can sit back and let my fears prevent me from participating in every way that I can or I remind myself that any little thing I can do might help make a difference. I write letters and make phone calls to my elected officials.

I'm prone to agoraphobia. I don't like crowds but you know what? Last year I got out and did everything I could to make a difference. I registered people to vote because I thought it would help make a difference and I like to think it did. I registered people at the post office on April 15, I registered people at the homeless shelter, we registered people at social functions. Locally the Dems are in charge. Because I fear for the future I

Then again, you can just ignore requests from fellow DU'ers to participate in polls if you go to the website and don't trust it.

then they jack up their numbers to raise advertising prices and sell your e'mail address. going to thier website only helps them.

I hope NewsMax stock didn't just go up on account of us!

can I get one more recommendation for one of our best Senators, Sen. Byrd of WV?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2335104

Way to divert us off the Newsmax story!

Happy New Year early!
:toast: :party:

Everything from Dem bashing to selling Viagra.

I always report it to my ISP as spam.

fuckyounewsmax@yousuck.com

the 1,000,000 viewer. I'm scared to accept for fear it's a scam and I'll get spammed by selling my email addy to all kinds of advertisers. Has anyone ever had such an experience? Am I truly a winner or am I naive fool? Please give me some input.

You realize, of course, they will report a result which fits their point of view. The Repubs are dedicated to percieving a 'reality' that is shaped to fit their emotional needs. They will ensure any results of this 'poll' exactly fits their view of reality.

This is how they win those other polls we call elections, thanks to Diebold.