Interesting point about spying excuses.

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/12/now-bush-says-he-was-only-spying-on.html

"Wow, very bad people who have a history of blowing up commuter trains, weddings and churches, yet Bush never sought a court order to conduct the snooping because he thought a court wouldn't let him?! Huh? Let me repeat, the people they spied on "have a history of blowing up trains, weddings and churches." If that's true, then any court in the land would haven given Bush a search warrant.

But there's a larger question. If Bush is now telling the truth about who these people are, then pray tell, what the hell was Bush doing letting hundreds if not thousands of people "who have a history of blowing up trains, wedding and churches" run around free inside the US for the past 4 years?"

I do love how John gets to the point.

Just sent it, with a compliment for last night's show.

more attention will be focused on this.

I feel your point is dead on and more people need to talk about this.

I wouldn't be surprised if it just sinks like a stone, as even the most interesting stuff can do in GD.

I can never understand it myself.:shrug:

I already replied and nominated it!

I can see why you might think that way but this one's on the Greatest page as it well should be.

but my life experience. But, thanks. I'm glad others are finding this a useful point. I've killed off many a better thread in my day. :-)

this time George - by breaking the law in spite of the other branches of gov't or in allowing terraists to run amok?

ONCE AGAIN!!!

Peace.

and Clinton is responsible for all ills.

and realize how incredibly insane they are and that they make absolutely no sense at all....

If one were to assume that what Bush is saying is indeed true, then the question begs "What the hell is Bush and his administration letting 100's or 1000's of people who have a history of blowing up trains, weddings and churches run free in the US for the past 4 years?"

Unbelievable....

We don't really know who has been swept up and who hasn't. They won't release names of those people who have been caught. Other than that Portland Oregon lawyer and the Lachawanna 6, I haven't heard any hue and cry about many others. There have been a few stories buried on page 26, one paragraph long, of a missing person that would fit the profile but how are we to know if they are being swept up.

And why they are being swept up? Legitimately or not....

I love John Aravosis but I would assert that some of these people are being picked up, and that not all of them are guilty either.....

Which is just as troubling really.

I swear sometimes dealing with this man is like dealing with a child.... You give him the rules and you tell him he has to ask for things, not take them. So if he wants an ice cream, and mama determines its after dinner she gives it to him..... But just like any child who wants dessert before dinner, he knows he can't ask cause he will be denied, so he does it anyway... Same thing.... we know he had been turned down a number of times and finally decided not to ask for permission. Its BS.

most terroristic criminal of all. The man who was halted in his diabolical plot to bring down the Brooklyn Bridge with a blow torch. That's what made it all worth while, you see.

Never mind that if he had succeeded in getting his blowtorch to the bridge or even in recruiting a brotherhood of the blowtorches to the bridge, the minute they turned them on someone would have noticed.

Then there would have been the length of time it took for one or more men to cut the whole bridge up with their blow torches. Naturally no one would have intervened. All those New York police and other first responders would have simply turned a blind eye. Uh, right.

But heaven knows that was a dastardly and deadly plot the equal of none I have ever heard of. I'm so relieved that widespread illegal wiretapping caught this scoundrel and protected us all from that diabolical blowtorch. Feh. Idiots. Droolers. Mouth breathers.:silly:

Faulty intelligence caught Bush "off guard" on 9/11. In spite of numerous foreign intelligence services screaming about an impending attack, and his own intelligence agencies warning him (August 6 PDB), Bush wants us to believe he "misinterpreted" this intelligence and chose to move on "faulty intelligence." In spite of the fact that the US knew about and monitored several of the 9/11 attackers who had been living inside the US for some time prior to 9/11, he wants us to believe him when he said he acted on "faulty intelligence."

"Faulty intelligence" was credited for Bush to erroneously invade Iraq. Even though WMDs experts and (again) foreign intelligence services were pleading with Bush to not invade due to the absence of WMDs (not to mention millions of citizens worldwide), Bush invaded and the present quagmire developed. Now he tells us he acted on "faulty intelligence."

But, he maintains that wiretapping Americans inside the US is "o.k." Really, Mr. Bush? When you f*ck up soooo badly with intelligence, how am I to believe you won't f*ck up with this information illegally obtained? How do I know the information you gleaned from wiretapping won't become "faulty intelligence?" You can't answer that question because you're a GD lying SOB whose wiretapping has little, if anything, to do with the "war on terror."

Which means his "intelligence", such as it is, is also faulty.

Trust him. He's the PRETHIDENT, for God's sake!