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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:33 AM
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Are the Democrats "playing politics" with the Dubai ports deal?
And it they were, would that be bad? George Bush and the Republicans have stepped in it with their defense of this deal. Many of the wiser Repubs understand this is a hand grenade they are holding. If this was the issue that threw the Repubs out of power, would it be worth "playing politics" for? Don't doubt for a second that this is a hot potato.

As others have noted, this Administration is willing to outsource national security to another country. This is where the Democrats need to draw the line in the sand. No further. We will stand together on this issue. We, as a Party, stand against this deal. If they wish to call it "playing politics", then so be it.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:36 AM
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1. NO. This is just ignorant, even coming from an administration
that is known for it's low intellect thuggery.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:36 AM
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2. anytime the Democrats take a stand
they are playing politics, whenever a republican takes a stand it is a deeply held belief.

liberal media my ass.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:43 AM
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5. That's it in a nutshell
LEt me add this-Once again everyone is applying the normal rules of behavior and decorum to dealing with this White House (Rove). That is the key mistake, they don't play by the same rules in fact they take advantage of that very act. They have repeatedly and clearly broken the "rules" and succeeded in doing so. Every issue that comes up everyone goes through the same procedure and every time Rove goes outside and flattens their tires, runs back in and screams "Some one flatten your tires", and while everyone is taking care of that he does what he wants and then acts as if anyone who mentions what he did is not playing fair.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:37 AM
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3. What does this phrase "playing politics" MEAN?

Thus far whenever I've seen it used it seems to refer to Politicians Saying Things. Occam could have learned a thing two from *this* razor.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:38 AM
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4. It means taking a position that is advantageous to your side...
Democrats have been afraid to do that for a long time. They need to change that.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:53 AM
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7. That's still a little ambiguous

Is it still playing politics if it's advantageous to your side and also the right thing to do?
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:57 AM
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8. If you're a Republican, it is....
That's how they play the game. Democrats should ignore them on this issue. This is the issue that takes back the House and possibly the Senate for the Democrats. They just need to take a stand and stick with it.
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baby_mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:02 AM
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11. Ah, I get it

The accusation would be: "you guys would do exactly the same as us in this position but you're saying you wouldn't because you'll get the support of all the stupid plebs who can't see that this is the only way forward," right? Hm. I thought it might be more like triangulation.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:35 AM
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12. Politicians playing politics are like physicists playing physics
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 11:36 AM by expatriot
Politics is what politicians do. I hate this damn "playing politics" as if politics is a bad word.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 10:52 AM
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6. Ohmigosh! Not *politics*!
Heaven forfend that Democrats take political advantage when the GOP steps on its collective johnson . . . again. Why, that's just plain dirty pool to kick a party when it's down.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:00 AM
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9. I think the majority of the opposition to the ports deal is concern
for national security and it's not limited to Democrats. If it can be used to the advantage of the Democrats I'm all for it. I don't have to tell anyone here that we are as concerned about national security as anyone else and for someone to speculate that racism is involved in opposing this deal is just ludicrous.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 11:02 AM
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10. Yes and it's about time n/t
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Sensitivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:25 PM
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13. Let Politicians be Politicians -- the rest of us have to guard our souls
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 12:28 PM by Sensitivity
We must distinguish between hammering the Pukes on the real port security debacle
and signing on to RW congress "let's get them Ay-rabs" bandwagon.
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