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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:30 PM
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President May Have Known of Constitutional Defect Before Bill Signing


http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1022

Rep. Waxman asks the White House to respond to information that the Speaker of the House called President Bush to alert him that the version of the Reconciliation Act he was about to sign differed from the version that passed the U.S. House of Representatives. Rep. Waxman writes: “If the President signed the Reconciliation Act knowing its constitutional infirmity, he would in effect be placing himself above the Constitution.”

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the constitution is only a piece of paper. smirk told us so.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:36 PM
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1. We need to SUE to prevent any further money from being expended.
Since the bill was not legally passed, all further spending is theft from the treasury.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:37 PM
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3. So?
What's your point? Theft, Shmeft. Chill out and go spend some money on an SUV.
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indie_voter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:36 PM
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2. How do you spell 'relief'? I M P E A C H n/t
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:38 PM
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4. I've long awaited somebody to challenge this . . .
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I've long awaited somebody to challenge this . . . when the House passes something and the Senate passes something else, then the joint cmte attempts to fester 'em both together . . . what happens next? If the prez signs something that one of the houses of congress allege it didn't pass? Particularly wherein as here the neo-cons in the majority in both congressional houses believe they walk on water! Hhhhmmmm? Damn, what fun! Go, Waxman, go! Wouldn't you enjoy Justice Thomas or Scalia authoring a majority opinion overturning something like this? Oh, come on, yes, you would.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:52 PM
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6. that doesn't happen.
if the joint committee cobbles together a bill that is similar but not IDENTICAL to either house's bill, then BOTH orignal bills die, and BOTH houses have to have a new vote to pass the new, reconciled bill.

then the president signs a bill that both houses actually passed.


at least, that's the procedure that's we've had in this country for well over two centuries. with these so-called "rule of law" fascists running the show, who knows what the hell is going on.

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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:39 PM
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5. And, if enabled any longer than 06,
we may be looking at the first American Emperior. I thought the purpose of founding a republic (since we do live in a republic) was to eliminate the kings not create them. Rome failed. America is failing.

Marx believed that a true communist state could only arise from the ashes of a very successful capitalist society, intriguing isn't it. The masses are disenfrancized and I warn you that a leader with enough intelligence and magnetism could truly strike this country a blow, especially after we bankrupt.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:57 PM
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7. He signed the bill that HE wanted, not the one passed, and tried to sneak
it into the statute books.
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