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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:37 PM
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Indiana sheeples are no longer strongly behind the war!
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 10:17 PM by Breeze54
http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/03/19/change_of_heartland/

Change of heartland
On the third anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, many Indianians are no longer strongly behind the war

By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff | March 19, 2006

SOUTH BEND, Ind. --
The third anniversary of the Iraq invasion unleashed a surge of pessimism at a local farmers' market here, where stalwart Republicans, standing amid aisles of produce and miracle cures, said President Bush has messed up a war that looks more like Vietnam every day.


''It's chaos," said Roger Madaras, who voted twice for Bush. ''How many more people are going to be killed? We were going in to free the people of Iraq, but as far as I'm concerned, a lot of them are worse off today than they were under the dictatorship."

Madaras, the owner of a plumbing company, said he believed Bush when the president declared major combat to be over in May 2003, and is ''disgusted" that Bush's rhetoric was hollow. And he is far from alone.

Support for Bush and his handling of Iraq is sharply eroding across the American heartland, where the overcast skies and the muddy fields of late winter matched a sense of gloom about Bush and the war.

This month, the Indianapolis Star released poll findings that Bush's approval rating among Indiana voters stood at 37 percent -- a drop of 18 points over the past year. The numbers echoed national polls, but were particularly shocking in a state that has not voted for a Democratic presidential candidate since 1964, and where Democratic presidential contenders often do not bother to campaign.

:woohoo: :woohoo:


More at Link! Read on! It gets better!! :rofl:
3 pages long...

Edited the title! LMAO! Is that better?? He,he!!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:43 PM
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1. Haha
Bush try hiding elephant in plain sight.
Ugly elephant whee all see.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:44 PM
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2. Only question: What's an "Indianian"?
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 09:49 PM by liberalpragmatist
Having lived in Indiana for ten years, I've never heard that term.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:47 PM
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3. otherwise known as hoosier.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:51 PM
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7. Yes, WE ARE HOOSIERS!
:rofl:

I can't believe they called us "Indianians." On the other hand, I'm proud of the Hoosier state. It is full of common sense people. Like a lot of other people in the heartland, they are fiercely patriotic, but you can't fool them forever with the jingoism.

:patriot:
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:50 PM
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5. lol..
when I first read the post I thought it was about India - then I thought they were referring to Native Americans - which had me very confused.... then I read the entire post and thought, I've never heard Hoosiers referred to as Indianaians....
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:59 PM
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10. I live in a state named after a misnomer.
We even have "a polis" named for it.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:18 PM
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13. What did you expect from a Boston newspaper!
We are just dumb hicks to them!
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:26 PM
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14. Well
Your state went for Bush in 2000 and 2004 and Mass went with the other guy :rofl:

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:31 PM
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15. My city and county went for Kerry in 2004, while Mass elected Romney
and we don't have a Big Dig boondogle in our fair city.

The difference between a red state and a blue state often boils down to a handful of counties, and the undemocratic Electoral College.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:36 AM
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16. Hey Boston LOVES Hoosiers!!
And you can blame the Big Dig boondogle on Bechtel!!
They are being fined? Sued? by the state!
Over 200 "mistakes" in the construction...that we know of so far!!

I didn't elect Romney...and I'm still scratching my head over that one too! LOL!
But I did marry a guy from Illinois (close to Indiana) but I divorced him too!! :rofl:
But my sister lived in your fair state for a number of years and she loved it!
I visited there once and it was beautiful!
Peace baby! lol
Boston loves ya!


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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 09:18 AM
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17. Hoosiers love Boston and Massachusetts too... but
having family in New York, I am a Yankees fan and I hate the Red Sox!

Peace!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:04 AM
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18. LMAO!! Ya HATE the Red Sox? WooHoo! I just...
Edited on Mon Mar-20-06 10:13 AM by Breeze54
hate how high the prices are for the damn tickets! Grrr!!
But I don't care one way or another because none of the baseball teams are local anymore!
The players, on every team, are from some other state or country!
So I really don't feel any loyalty!
Do you? Really?
It isn't like the players are actually from New York or Boston! Some are but most aren't!
It's all just a big money machine now...corporate baseball..BLAH!
Who needs it?? :shrug:
But the games are still fun to watch, I guess...if there's nothing better to do!

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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:22 AM
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19. Larry Bird was an Indiana hick
You chowderheads would do well to remember that.

Oh yeah, so were Eugene Debs and Theodore Dreiser. And Birch Bayh and Vance Hartke.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:56 PM
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21. and Kurt Vonnegut and Dave Letterman
and Jim Jones and John Dillenger
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:09 PM
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11. I know!! lol...
Edited on Sun Mar-19-06 10:11 PM by Breeze54
I was scratching my head too on that one!! :rofl:
I was having trouble pronouncing it!! He,he!

But I liked the last paragraph also, besides the rest of the article.

Snip-->
All the talk lately about Bush and the problems with Iraq bemuses Susan Grimes, a waitress
at the South Junction Café, a lonely outpost at the intersection of state roads 6 and 35.
Grimes said listening to her customers complain has turned her off politics.

''I hear all these people come in and say: 'That President Bush, we got to get that guy out of there.'
But you ask them who they voted for, and they hush up because they were the ones who voted him in.
He's their boy."
<--Snip

:rofl: They must be hurtin'!!

Well; in Boston they say "Bostonians", so maybe that's what the author was going for...:shrug:
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ChristianLibrul Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:48 PM
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4. Doesn't matter...the war's over!
It's V-T Day! Chimpy celebrated the third anniversary of Shock-n-Awe today without using the word, "war."

http://tinyurl.com/re8x7

But...who won?
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:57 PM
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9. the war is not over, dear... and what is V T?
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CrazyOrangeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:50 PM
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6. Pretty amazing.
I lived in Indy for seven years. It was quite interesting being around Limbaugh-lovers for the first time. I was working with college-educated guys who were major Kool-Aiders.

I read the whole article, and it sounds like most still aren't ready to admit they made a dreadful mistake. But, at least it is a start.

I still have a couple liberal friends there--I'll have to call them soon and see what they are experiencing.

Thanks for the post.
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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 09:56 PM
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8. It's a sad testimony that we needed to Kill over 100.000 people before
these twice bush voters finally understood that he is a liar and the war was just plain evil.

this saddens and sickens me..

now that Heart Land Amurika finally get's it, how many more have to die for this evil lie before that Hoosier hits the streets and demands that this war come to an end?
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-19-06 10:16 PM
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12. yeah, I hear you but
I was looking at the article and what was said and towards the elections
and it seems the tide is turning, me thinks!!
If you look at it from that perspective...then this news is a good sign! IMHO!

:thumbsup:
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 10:24 AM
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20. "Sheeple"
Do they just teach generalizations in New England schools, or what?

I'll take the "sheeple" here over the liberals from Boston any day.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:14 PM
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22. What makes you think I went to NE schools?
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 05:15 PM by Breeze54
Sheeple...definition:
(sheeple (SHEE.pul) n. People who are meek, easily persuaded, and tend to follow the crowd
(sheep + people).
This is an accurate discription of the word Sheeple.

"People who are meek, easily persuaded, and tend to follow the crowd"








:rofl: :rofl:
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