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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:45 PM
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David Frum after Iraq visit admits "Not Going Very Well"
Interesting exchange I was tipped off to from mediabistro's tvnewser section.

Listen Up, Rumsfeld: "Bad News Is A Service To The Country"
Sunday's Reliable Sources featured a must-see (well, must-read) conversation about media coverage of the war in Iraq. Here's an exchange between Howard Kurtz and David Frum:

KURTZ: Did your trip to Iraq change your view of the coverage?

FRUM: I came back thinking the coverage was better than I thought it was.

KURTZ: Really?

FRUM: I think I've become -- speaking as one of the (inaudible) that despises bloggers, I have become very impatient with the dynamic that goes on in the way we talk about coverage here, which is that there's this debate where the people who criticize the war will emphasize the negative and the people who support the war emphasize the positive. And the idea is, that if you support the war, if you think it's right, if you think the United States needs to win, that you, therefore, have to say, well, all this bad news is unreal, and the real story is one of progress.

I don't know why it's not intellectually accurate to say the war is right, it was right to enter it, it has to be won, but it's not going very well. And, in fact, bad news is a service to the country because it is the way you correct mistakes. One of the things that I was very impressed with when I spoke to a lot of military people there, they actually have now a pretty good military strategy in place. But they didn't for the first year and a half.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0603/19/rs.01.html


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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 12:53 PM
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1. The US cavalry had a good strategy too,concentration camps. 1st do no harm
is how CIVILIZED people conduct themselves.
KILLING tens of thousands, mutililating even more women, children and innocent civilian men who will be expected to EMBRACE AMERICAN SOLDIERS!! What hypocracy we are allowing in this country.
If our stomach is full, & we have all the conveniences, and the wealth of war profiteering, the cost is unimportant. Wake up Americans, you are killers for hire, and hire killers.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 01:00 PM
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2. Huge indicator. "Management" gave him new talking points. Great
When Frum is told to shut his childish mouth and sing a new tune, you know that the end is near for "little Ceasar."

"Management" is not amused any longer.

Pack your bags * and head for Bush Back Mountain;)
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