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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:43 PM
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What happens if we **really** need our once great military?
As we enter the fourth year of our 'cake walk' to Baghdad, our military has taken the brunt of it. These people are not some over-sized collection of GI Joe dolls. They're your brother and mine, your sister and mine. Your mother or father and mine. You and me.

As technologically superior as our military was and is, its human resources have been stretched to the limit and beyond. From the demoralized enlisted ranks, to the pissed off generals and admirals in the Pentagon, they're choosing to leave in ever increasing numbers, even as their abuse continues.

But the real question that's bothering me is what happens if we **really** need our military? We keep a standing military as a deterrent. And to be sure there are bad guy states out there. States that would love to take us on. And we have already demonstrated that we can be beaten. Not because our military is inferior, but because our military is led by stupid political ideologues.

What if Israel and Iran get into a squabble?

What if Egypt gets festering?

What if the Palestinians provoke other states in the Middle East to attack Israel?

What if Kim Jong Littleshit decides no one is paying enough attention to his malignant ass and lobs a missile or three at Japan?

Shit ... what if some state invades, say, Turkey, our fellow NATO partner?

Instead, we have a broken military with demoralized troops who have been so criminally overused.

Who will protect us from what we have witnessed ourselves become?

Fighting Terror Begins at Home. We MUST, in '06, turn out the enablers who wrought this mess on our country. Your well being and that of your children demands it.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:45 PM
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1. We will be drafted.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:46 PM
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2. What happens if we're attacked tomorrow? We're fucked.
These twits in office wouldn't know what to do with themselves. They would run in a circle with their arms flailing, and all their numskull supporters would say Clinton did it.

It's up to you to watch your own ever-lovin' ass under bushco and Amerikkka led by the BFEE.

:nuke:
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Sticky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:50 PM
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3. Already needed it
Katrina


problem is, even with availability of the military, someone needs to know how to use it. That person ain't b*sh. :-(
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:51 PM
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4. We don't really need our vast military much at all.
"What if Israel and Iran get into a squabble?"

Israel is quite capable of taking care of itself. We are not needed in this case.

"What if Egypt gets festering?" It already is and it is not our problem.

"What if the Palestinians provoke other states in the Middle East to attack Israel?"

Israel is quite capable of taking care of itself. We are not needed in this case.

"What if Kim Jong Littleshit decides no one is paying enough attention to his malignant ass and lobs a missile or three at Japan?"

With the world's blessing we will lob a few missiles at North Korea and that will be the end of that. Meanwhile millions will die. We do not need our bloated military for that, we need a modest nuclear deterrent force.

"Shit ... what if some state invades, say, Turkey, our fellow NATO partner?"
Which state is that? Turkey has a fairly large military of its own, probably sufficient to stop any non-super power invader. Hmmm... we seem to be the only super power around, so I guess you must mean that we would defend the Turks against our own attack. Turkey, a member of NATO, would get assistance from NATO, which assistance would be shared between NATO members and does not require our bloated military to be quite as bloated as it is.

"Who will protect us from what we have witnessed ourselves become?"

A better question is 'who will protect the rest of the world from us'?


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400Years Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:53 AM
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10. exactly

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stevekatz Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:58 AM
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11. You don't
You don't have any idea in the world what you're talking about
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:21 PM
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14. 'kay
so refute my points. Generally just saying "You don't have any idea in the world what you're talking about" is not considered much of an argument. Or put it this way, I can simply respond "yes I do" and absolutey no new information has been made available between your vapid response and my equally empty reply. Make your case.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:53 PM
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5. Answers to your questions
Israel v. Iran: Dunkirk of Israelis to Brooklyn

Egypt festers: stop aid to gov't, start aid to people

Palestine provokes other ME countries unlike without superpower sponsor.

Kim Jong Il is a missile and airstrike scenario.

All of Turkey's neighbors are too poor and have no motive to invade.

Most other countries would be at least as difficult to occupy as Iraq, and their neighbors know it. We seem to be the only ones who think we can occupy others and the only big country that worries about being invaded by pissants like Iraq even though they had no navy and couldn't put a plane in the air unless we let them.

Wars don't well up out of the blue, there has to be some festering issue and obvious motive just as there was at Pearl Harbor.

Fighting terror should primarily be spook and special forces operation to take out active terrorists, and broad prevention program that takes away the grievances that allow countries to recruit. The easiest way to do the latter is to stop letting our foreign policy be dictated by oil companies and sweatshop and plantation owners, and stop overthrowing at least elected governments like we did in Haiti and tried to do in venezuela just because some corporation got their panties in a knot.

It would cost those businesses some money, but save taxpayers a hell of a lot more, and save the lives of our soldiers and the civilians they would otherwise kill on behalf of Chevron or United Fruit.
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:53 PM
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6. I've got a good one.
What if China decided they wanted to take over Taiwan now?

I think we'd just have to let them have it.
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newblewtoo Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:29 PM
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9. Agreed
I actually had this discussion several days ago. China is more a problem for Japan, let them support Taiwan. Chiang Kai Shek and the Japanese have a most interesting history.:evilgrin:
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stevekatz Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 10:59 AM
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12. except
By treaty we are obligated to defend Japan
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:02 PM
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7. oh you mean even more likely -what if there is................
....another major hurricane this season and we have no National Guard here to help the citizens of our own country?? One word answer here - Katrina!!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:06 PM
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8. Two words -- we're screwed.
And then a draft will begin thanks to Junior's capricious use of the military.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:00 AM
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13. It's EASY! He's still got the red button!
Edited on Tue Mar-21-06 11:01 AM by Kablooie
So don't worry. There are plenty of ICBM's to go around for everyone. Just wait your turn.
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