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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:12 AM
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You have to give W credit for one thing in Iraq
He sure made his father's actions seem intelligent . . .

I mean, didn't 41 say something to the effect that, had we gone in and taken out Saddam Hussein in 90/91, we would still be in Iraq to this day?

And now, we're going to be in Iraq, waiting for things to get peaceful, at least into the next pResident's term (if there are elections in 08 . . . martial law, ya know . . .)
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:17 AM
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1. That's right.....
But it is really his incompetence that we had the 1st unnecessary war. Saddam did let Shrub I know that he was going to invade Iraq. And the bases in Saudi Arabia led to the rise of OBL. I shudder to think at the potential terrorist we have created with this war.....
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:20 AM
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2. Yes, I've also often thought Dad seemed brilliant compared to #43 nt
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FoxNewsSucks Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:24 AM
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3. Maybe that's why they're not on speaking terms
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:38 AM
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8. This must be pretty hard on GHWB.
Not that I'm a fan of his or anything, just as a human being, it must be very difficult to watch your own son and namesake f*ck up like no one has ever f*cked up before. GWB will go down in history as one of the worst presidents ever, and the Bush name will be ruined.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:27 AM
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4. He and his criminal associates deserve all the credit.
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:28 AM
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5. It's all relative
Back then, who knew that the GHWB administration was a golden age of Republican leadership?

You know, when you look at the Bush family tree, maybe Darwin was wrong....

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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:32 AM
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6. You could quote GHWB from his memoirs
he states that Iraq would take years of occupations
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:38 AM
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7. Maybe Junior and Cheney thought that was upside
Halliburton's stock price wasn't built in a day.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 10:58 AM
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9. I have warmed to Bush Sr these last few years

He successfully pulled off Desert Storm, he signed a civil rights bill, and he raised taxes when it was necessary. Aside from Iran-contra I find it hard to think of reasons to hate him.

If only he hadn't had sex with Barbara that night.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:04 AM
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10. PANAMA!!!!!!
He murdered 3000 Panamanians to get Noriega on bullshit charges!
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:13 AM
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11. I didn't remember this incident so I did some googling..
On December 15, 1989, Noriega sought and was given by the legislature the title of chief executive officer of the government. The Noriega-led assembly declared that a state of war with the United States existed. The next day Panamanian soldiers killed an unarmed U.S. Marine officer dressed in civilian clothes.

Retaliation by the United States was quick and decisive. On December 17, U.S. President George Bush ordered troops to Panama, with the subsequently announced aims of seizing Noriega to face drug charges in the United States, protecting American lives and property, and restoring Panamanian liberties. The initial attack took place in darkness on the morning of December 20 and was focused primarily on Noriega's headquarters in Panama City. U.S. forces quickly overcame most organized resistance, but in the following days numerous Panamanian soldiers and civilians looted shops in Panama City and Colón, and some 2,000 U.S. reinforcements were flown in to help establish order. The number of Panamanians killed in the operation was estimated at 200-300 combatants (soldiers and paramilitaries) and some 300 civilians; 23 U.S. soldiers also were killed. Hundreds from both nations were wounded.

On the first day of the invasion, Endara and his two vice presidents were sworn in to head the government of Panama. Noriega took refuge in the Vatican nunciature (embassy) in Panama, until he surrendered to U.S. authorities on January 3, 1990, and was then transported to Miami, Florida. There he stood trial, was convicted on a host of charges, and was sentenced to a U.S. prison. In Panama and also France, Noriega was charged with various crimes, including murder, but no enduring efforts were made to have him extradited.

http://www.onwar.com/aced/data/papa/panamaus1989.htm

If this is accurate, it would seem to reflect pretty well on Bush Sr.

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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 03:03 PM
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14. Bush Daddy is a criminal too
Theres much information on the BS Panamanian invasion:

Try this one:

http://www.addictedtowar.com/panama.htm
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 11:26 AM
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12. Money and Power is the ROOT of Evil
The Pubs are the Personification through these Bushes and the Company they keep...

Hooked up with the Far Right/NeoCons..they have fostered some Bad shit on America/Planet...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-27-06 04:46 PM
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15. Some Dem senator needs to say, "heck of job, georgie*"nt
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