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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:12 PM
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Immigration and globalization...
Read this publication and recoil in horror as I did.

www.iie.com/publications/chapters_preview/331/5iie3284.pdf

The IIE board includes David Rockefeller, Harvard President Larry Summers and long-time Rockefeller agents Paul Volcker and Pete Peterson. These guys are globalists (New World Order types) in case you didn't know.

This file is copy protected so I cannot cut and paste. What they more or less propose is integrating the US, Canada and Mexico. I heard a report on CNN that said they hope to accomplish this by 2010. They said there would be new governing bodies. First is the North American Commision to be appointed by government, but independent of government (you know...no oversight and probably more or less secret...like CIFIUS). These guys are the planners.

Then they propose making a group called the North American Parliamentary Group (NAPG) which would be comprised of legislators from all three countries. That sounds icky to me.

They also suggest a new currency, the "Amero". You guys will see...the dollar will collapse like it did in the late '70s. Fuel, gold, silver and other commodities will go through the roof in the next year. I suspect this new currency will be introduced to 'save the day'. Never mind that fiat currency is a way to steal wealth from the people who don't understand the system of money, wealth and finance (as the Rockefellars do).

Globalization is the same as the New World Order. Slowly but surely, they don't want individual countries. Once there's a world government, with today's technology, they can impose a world tyranny that will be hard to beat. I believe that's their aim, but they have to break America down first. They need to keep making us more poor and less educated. They have to reduce wages. They need to encourage Mexican immigration. You see, US citizens don't want to merge with Mexico, so in order to merge us, they're encouraging Mexicans to relocate!! Vincente Fox is doing exactly that (with the back door blessings of our power elite).

So, this isn't just about cheap labor and corporations. Its way way more insidious. Its about the undoing of America and taking away our sovereign status as an independent country. Canada has similarly been sold out (and with a little googling, you'll see many are unhappy about it). Heck, Quebec doesn't even want to be part of Canada, how are they going to cope with being part of the US and Mexico too!!

The new world order is real. I'm just not convinced they're devil worshipers (which is what the conspiracy web pages alledge).



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:19 PM
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1. i have read a little of it--it is an economic pact--to confront EU
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:21 PM
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2. This theory has been around for awhile, but it makes sense
if one looks at the global economy. The old WW11 vets are all about gone, so much for nationalism. 2010 thats four years from now, i'm not sure thats enough time to keep the natives settled. This could cause an uprising in this country and Canada, Mexico and it's people would embrace it.
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:38 PM
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3. GLOOM AND DOOM!!!!
Have you been reading articles written by Gov. Richard Lamm?
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:45 PM
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4. No, tell me more about Gov Lamm.
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:06 PM
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7. Snopes is the only place I could find
this speech, but it's making it's way around the net.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 10:49 PM
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10. Hi Guidod
Finally got time to read the Richard Lamm speech. I hadn't heard it laid out like that before, seems we're sitting in the middle of doom and it appears we're to late to do anything about it.

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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:46 PM
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11. I hope we're not to late
but it doesn't look good!
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Trish1168 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:46 PM
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5. I know I'm gloomy lately. The immigration thing has me annoyed
The Mexican's waving their flags and saying they're being treated unfairly has me wondering what's really going on.

Even more annoying is the amnesty program. I am Mexican (my Mom is from Texas), and I feel badly for them. But I also feel badly for all the low end workers in this country too. I feel like we're in no position to solve Mexico's problems.

Sorry to be so negative.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 07:48 PM
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6. What's really going on, read this!
Immigration and globalization...

Read this publication and recoil in horror as I did.

www.iie.com/publications/chapters_preview/331/5iie3284....

The IIE board includes David Rockefeller, Harvard President Larry Summers and long-time Rockefeller agents Paul Volcker and Pete Peterson. These guys are globalists (New World Order types) in case you didn't know.

This file is copy protected so I cannot cut and paste. What they more or less propose is integrating the US, Canada and Mexico. I heard a report on CNN that said they hope to accomplish this by 2010. They said there would be new governing bodies. First is the North American Commision to be appointed by government, but independent of government (you know...no oversight and probably more or less secret...like CIFIUS). These guys are the planners.

Then they propose making a group called the North American Parliamentary Group (NAPG) which would be comprised of legislators from all three countries. That sounds icky to me.

They also suggest a new currency, the "Amero". You guys will see...the dollar will collapse like it did in the late '70s. Fuel, gold, silver and other commodities will go through the roof in the next year. I suspect this new currency will be introduced to 'save the day'. Never mind that fiat currency is a way to steal wealth from the people who don't understand the system of money, wealth and finance (as the Rockefellars do).

Globalization is the same as the New World Order. Slowly but surely, they don't want individual countries. Once there's a world government, with today's technology, they can impose a world tyranny that will be hard to beat. I believe that's their aim, but they have to break America down first. They need to keep making us more poor and less educated. They have to reduce wages. They need to encourage Mexican immigration. You see, US citizens don't want to merge with Mexico, so in order to merge us, they're encouraging Mexicans to relocate!! Vincente Fox is doing exactly that (with the back door blessings of our power elite).

So, this isn't just about cheap labor and corporations. Its way way more insidious. Its about the undoing of America and taking away our sovereign status as an independent country. Canada has similarly been sold out (and with a little googling, you'll see many are unhappy about it). Heck, Quebec doesn't even want to be part of Canada, how are they going to cope with being part of the US and Mexico too!!

The new world order is real. I'm just not convinced they're devil worshipers (which is what the conspiracy web pages alledge).
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:09 PM
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8. I feel bad that the Illegals pay
billions of dollars in taxes in this country and benefit in nothing.
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guidod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 08:32 PM
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9. Immigration has been used as a
wedge issue for as long as I can remember. This is an election year and this is a perfect issue to take our minds off what is really happening, like Iraq. We have to stay focused.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:22 AM
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12. I think the two issues
are connected in many ways (the end result is the same - lower and middle class Americans will have reduced wages), but are distinct in ways too.

Labor will flow where it's cheapest and it will be very difficult to control and regulate how much they can hire overseas, when the system of globalization as it is now was created in large part by the US at the behest of multinational corporations. India and China, and to a lesser extent Mexico and others are merely playing a game that was rigged in favor of US/Eurpean corporations all too well.

However, we should be able to control borders, especially people entering illegally. That makes no sense whatsoever. Of course, both should be regulated, but fines and tax benefits will only do so much to keep jobs here which are a fraction of the cost abroad.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-30-06 03:29 AM
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13. NWO is cheap labor and corporations
The plantation, er, ownership society. The investor class and those who serve them, worldwide. It's all the same thing. Government does nothing except secure the infrastructures for commerce. The rest of us are on our own. They have complete power again, just like before that pesky revolution.

I hope US workers figure out we're fighting the wrong people pretty soon.
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