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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:27 PM
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No support for Feingold /Cynthia McKinney is an embarrassment
No grass roots support for Feingold's censure and Democrats see Cynthia McKinney as an embarrassment.

so says Dana Milbank. (hardball)...love to prove him wrong......any ideas?
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:30 PM
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1. wasn't the proof in the hearing today?
looked like very little support to me.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:35 PM
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2. in my very humble opinion.....
Cynthia Mckinney is NOT an embarrassment and it would be nice to see a rally from DU toward her and Russ Feingold....
well I was just trying to get people to write in support of these two people.
I agree with you that it was a very poor showing...I just think all democrats need to know how upset we are about it.
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:38 PM
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4. have not followed the mckinney situation...
what would be a way to get involved there?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:38 PM
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3. Hardball...more like NUTBALL
Slow and steady wins the race. The GOP are killing themselves without our help, as time passes, they will sink lower still. Sometimes, it's better to just let people fuck it up all on their own. No sense giving them an opportunity to play the whining majority "victim."
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:42 PM
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6. ...maybe..
but I love Russ and what he has done. I love Cynthia and what she stands for. I feel the same about a few others including John Conyers. These people may be a litle "in your face", but I am one of these people that believe this is what we need.

your point is well taken though
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:48 PM
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8. I think we need to be patient, even the GOP arch conservatives are
coming around. When Wm. F. Buckley calls the war a failure, there's trouble in GOP paradise.

Sometimes, ya just gotta lead, follow, or get out of the way. Now's the time to get out of the way, and let the GOP lemmings march merrily to the Potomac and jump in.

Cynthia has a lawyer; she's been told to shut up and she has said she isn't commenting. Quite frankly, for her, the lower key this whole incident stays, the better. The more attention put toward it, the more the Cap cops will feel backed into a corner, and the more fingerwagging you will see from the crazies on the right. The Cap Cops, really aren't, as a group, assholes--they try to live and let live. Hopefully, the situation will be resolved by her apologizing for hitting the guard with the cellphone, the guard apologizing for getting shirty with her, and the guards promising to actually LOOK at the faces of the Black folk coming into the Cap.

Does anyone know why Cynthia does not wear her House pin? She's about the only one who doesn't...
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:04 AM
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22. I like what McKinney does politically. And I haven't heard all
of the evidence about the police incident. However, she should know that she is a "target" and therefore should take at least a few precautions, i.e. wear the damn badge and don't hit the cop ( in case you did) even if he provoked the incident. It just isn't worth it. Bad strategy. Make your stand in the House of Representatives, not at the en trace with security policeman.
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RufusEarl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:39 PM
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5. What democrat thinks Rep. McKinney is an embarrassment?
I know she had a run in with the capitol police yesterday, but i don't know the whole story. That said the Capitol police don't have the best record for doing the right thing, we all remember the SOTU address and Cindy's T-shirt.

And the censure resolution introduced by Sen. Feingold is gathering momentum, it might help Sen.Feingold if we all started a email campaign to help garner support for his censure resolution. Sometimes the grass roots need a little shove.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:43 PM
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7. well of course...no democrats were named
they said her personality was volatile...but Chris Matthews likes her

email campaign would be good
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:51 PM
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10. I disagree--if you want to support the representative, send her a nice
postcard with a personal expression of support and well wishes.

You start emailing nitwit Tweety, it will become his topic du jour.

The best thing for Cynthia is for this thing to FADE, not get highlighted. Why eat up airtime with an altercation between an individual rep and a cop? That's time taken away from talking about a failed WAR.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:34 PM
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16. I was talking an email campaign TO Cynthia and Russ
definitely not hardball
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 08:11 AM
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25. Cool. That works! n/t
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 11:45 AM
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28. The republic is in peril and the embarassment is those who don't support
Feingold's noble efforts on behalf of the Constitution and his sworn duty to preserve, protect and defend it. Testimony by Bruce Fein in the past and now shows precisely WHY:

""The theory invoked by the president to justify eavesdropping by the NSA in contradiction to FISA would equally justify mail openings, burglaries, torture or internment camps all in the name of gathering foreign intelligence. Unless rebuked it will lie around like a loaded weapon, ready to be used by any incumbents who claims an urgent need." from

Statement--United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary
"Wartime Executive Power and the NSA's Surveillance Authority II"
February 28, 2006

Bruce Fein, Esq.
Fein & Fein

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2006_hr/022806fein.html

Indeed, unless Congress rebukes this meglomaniacal chief executive, the Republic is imperiled. R's don't realize what they have done; God forgive them for they know not what they do.
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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:51 PM
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9. Because Feingold started a corrupt war & McKinney shot someone?
That certainly would turn me agains them. Love em both and more power to 'em.
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Wisconsin Larry Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 06:51 PM
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11. With 70% of Dems supporting Censure, I would ask
how much grass root support does he want to see, 100? Check out the pole at
http://americanresearchgroup.com/ The problem with these guys is they think the world ends at the beltway.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:01 PM
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12. What did you expect?...
sounds like Tweet's is same old..same old...
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:02 PM
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13. GOP is tying to start a race war w/in the Dems. Dont play their game.
Support McKinney. A woman with a cellphone is not a danger to anyone, even if she is big boned, outspoken and african-american.

Too many Dems are afraid of alienating the working class poeple in the south who may be tempted to vote Democrat for economic reasons in the wake of Katrina and Iraq. They think if they support McKinney, said blue collar southern voters will say "Hell, no! We wont't vote for McKinney's party." But I have news for them. The working class in the south is not afraid of McKinney and her cell phone.

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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:15 AM
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23. I beg to differ :v)
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 12:16 AM by lwcon
Re: "A woman with a cellphone is not a danger to anyone, even if she is big boned, outspoken and african-american."

Another recent news item says otherwise: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12101356/
___

Hey, the liberal light is always on at the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy. Please stop by and say "hi!"


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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:02 PM
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14. Send Dana Milbank roses made of cowpie
What a maroon.





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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:11 PM
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15. Milibank still works for the RNC. He is just Deep Undercover.
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 07:12 PM by McCamy Taylor
Not saying that he gets money. I have no proof of that. Buit read what he writes listen to what he says and you will see whom it benefits. The old ethics issues that got him in trouble at the WaPo were a sign of some serious bias problems.
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Slit Skirt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 07:36 PM
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17. hold up everybody...just was thinking we should give some
support to these guys through some emails...that's all
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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 08:24 PM
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18. I don't support Feingold and McKinney
And they both reflect poorly on our party, especially McKinney who is coming across as a bitter lunatic. It's stuff like this that comes across as radical to the "ordinary americans" who we can't win over in elections.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 09:05 PM
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19. See post 13. True Dems are not defensive, we are proud!
Edited on Fri Mar-31-06 09:07 PM by McCamy Taylor
We represent the majority of Americans, and we need to talk as if we represent the majority of Americans--an inclusive majority that is not afraid of differing styles and points of view.

The lock step, all one message, white bread and mayonaise style is for Repukes.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:16 PM
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20. .......just visiting?
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:48 AM
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31. As opposed to the wonderful job people like DLC Dems
did in winning over ordinary Americans in 2000, 2002 and 2004?
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 12:21 PM
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35. Been drinking too much?
:eyes:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-31-06 10:37 PM
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21. Well, he's wrong about everything else
Why is it surprising that he would say this? This man has a tin ear and doesn't really see or hear anything that hasn't already been passed around Washington cocktail parties at least 3 times.

The droppings of the professionally cynical get so tiresome after a while. Mr. Milbank needs to get out beyond the little confines of official Washington once in a while. It would do him and his reporting a world of good.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:18 AM
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24. Milbank slyly tosses in a comment about McKinney's dad being anti-semetic
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 12:19 AM by oasis
at the very end of the segment. What's Milbank's point in bringing it up?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 08:23 AM
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26. Cynthia McKinney IS an embarassment
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 08:23 AM by MrBenchley
She's an anti-semitic loony who claimed Al Gore was a racist. And there's no support for Feingold's censure grandstanding out in the real world because it's a cheapass stunt that's ultimately meaningless.
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cobaindrain Donating Member (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 11:49 AM
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29. thanks for the reality check
:yourock:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 03:35 PM
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30. Any time
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 09:59 AM
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27. Bush is a thug. Cheney is a corrupt and incompetent political hack.
:-)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:50 AM
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32. If we would stop chopping up our own

There would be plenty of support for McKinney and Feingold.

We are our own worst enemy.


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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:56 AM
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33. (pssstttttt... It's not our own...)
It's the little people who live under bridges.

NGU.


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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 12:12 PM
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34. LOL, damn those little bridge people nt
Edited on Sun Apr-02-06 12:13 PM by goclark


Why do we let them get away with it?

I'm guilty I guess.
When we spupport their threads by trying to help them to understand the issues, they get more posting numbers and they become, "one of our own."
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