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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:33 PM
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But of course there's no difference between Gore and Bush*.
:eyes:

Dumbasses.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:34 PM
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1. why do people keep bringing this up ?
yawn. :eyes:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:36 PM
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2. 3000 dead Americans and 100,000 dead Iraqis come to mind
And, yes, I do put a lot of blame towards people who thought there was "no difference" between the two. We saw the difference clearly; why couldn't they?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:38 PM
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3. Because you don't want us to.
That's the point; there are consequences for foolish actions which harm society, both nationally and worldwide.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:46 PM
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8. I don't want you to ?
:wtf: I personally don't give a shit what you choose to post about, I just think its a tremendous waste to keep stabbing ourselves in the ass when there are bigger dragons in front of us.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:50 PM
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10. It's important to review the rhetoric
so we recognize it when the same misguided yet vehement opposition comes full cycle in 2008.


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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:39 PM
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4. The Big Green Lie
Something our Green enabler friends don't like to be reminded of ...
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Trouser Trout Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:40 PM
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5. Who in the hell made that dumbass statement ? n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:44 PM
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6. Nader and his followers
many of whom inhabit DU today.
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Trouser Trout Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:45 PM
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7. It's still a dumbass statement n/t
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:48 PM
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9. of course it is
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:52 PM
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11. No difference between Gore and Bush - maybe they got a point..............
.....maybe there isn't any difference except.........

Brain...

The WH Idiot - he pickled his brain with all that cocaine and booze that became known as "youthful indiscretions" at 20 and 30 years old.

President Al Gore - has a brain and regularly uses it.

Speaking ability...

The WH Idiot - couldn't speak in a full intelligent sentence if his life depended on it - without practicing for days on end that is. Even then it would be a toss up.

President Al Gore - can speak in full intelligent understandable sentences about a variety of issues at the same time.

Relating to other...

The WH Idiot - impresses the world with his "uncuriousness". OMG, I love that one!!

President Al Gore - is able to speak to and relate to everyone from the "bottom of the rung citizen" to world leaders without missing a beat.

Taking Advice...

The WH Idiot - Rejects advice except from Carl Rove (I'm beginning to wonder about them two, maybe Pickles knows something we don't) and is so set in his one way or the highway attitude that opinion or attitude change to Idiot boy equals weakness.

President Al Gore - Seeks out advice from a variety of sources on a given issue and then makes a decision based on all the gathered information. I think that's called educating oneself.

So maybe, people have got a point, other than these issues they are both male after all so they do have something in common. I'm sorry President Al Gore for insulting you so but I'm trying to see this from other's point of view and not having much success.:shrug:

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 02:55 PM
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12. ah, unity.
:D
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:14 PM
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13. They are both controlled by big corporations or some
other hippie drivel. I don't hear much from nader anymore.
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:21 PM
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16. Of course. Everything is controlled by corporations.
We can't deny it: If not for corporate money, both parties wouldn't be anything like they are today. But within the parties are people who will actually represent the ideals that the party is supposed to embody, but doesn't.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:25 PM
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18. what I've always wondered is ...
...who decided what those ideals are who decided that the party is supposed to embody them?
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:36 PM
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25. Well, I was just thinking in terms of the current issues....
civil liberties/ environment/ war, etc., and that the Democratic party as a whole has been held back somewhat from adressing these issues due to dependence on corporate money, as well as sometimes ignoring their base in an attempt to get the votes of people further to the right. But do you mean in terms of things that groups of people want but neither party adresses? That does keep things from being considered as mainstream issues.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:42 PM
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27. I see where you're at
But my question is, who decided the ideals that Democrats are supposed to represent, and to what extent we are supposed to represent them?

Is there a test?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:14 PM
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14. Yes. It drove me crazy when people said that. Still does. nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:18 PM
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15. that charge is still implied today, almost daily, on DU
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 03:18 PM by wyldwolf
not specifically about Gore, but still the same.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:24 PM
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17. It is just the DLC folks doing their Daily Unity Promotion
Thank you for keeping the home fires burning! Some would say that this crap gets old and it deserves to be given a rest. Others would say that time had come and gone a long time ago. I myself will simply say that it is childish and let ti go at that.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:25 PM
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19. Still others would say...
...we can't let it happen again, even as people are threatening to make it happen again.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:26 PM
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20. thats what I would say.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:26 PM
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21. and as I've said all along...
the party has it within its power to keep it from happening again, just not in the way some folks think it does.
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:27 PM
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22. whatever
Edited on Mon Jun-05-06 03:28 PM by StellaBlue
:puke:

:eyes:

Nader was RIGHT. That's what I've learned. Nader has been totally, 100% vindicated in his assessment of geopolitics and American apathy. The Dems have proven themselves, almost to a (wo)man, to be capitulators. Enablers. Whole body made up of a bunch of little Chamberlains.

And if today's Gore had run, he would've won so big they couldn't have stolen it.

For 2008, mark my words: Gore will run, and he will win.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:31 PM
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23. You know, if we all quit our jobs global warming would stop.
We would not pollute the environment with exhaust from our cars and public transportation, and that's the least of it. Smokestacks would stop smoking, chemical plants would stop dumping. Tune in, turn on, drop out.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:33 PM
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24. how is today's Gore any different than the 2000 Gore?
He opposed a war (sort of) that was still three years off in 2000.

But what else?
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:46 PM
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28. Did you see his speech at the DAR hall?
About this president's abuse of the constitution???

That was pretty radical.

And, most importantly, he is funny now. We know the Murkins likes funny.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:49 PM
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29. yes, but it doesn't answer my question
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:37 PM
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26. Consider the times.
First and foremost, there was Joe Lieberman. People keep comparing him to Bush today, it was true then as well. Secondly, Gore kept trying to appeal to the conservatives on the issues, consider Creationism for example. And, of course, Bush was doing the opposite- making big promises about reducing greenhouse gases, etc.

In retrospect, sure there were big differences. But not to the average voter in 2000.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 03:57 PM
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30. We have a Dem primary tomorrow and one of the candidates running
for the Dem nomination supported Nader in 2000.

That is a deal killer for me. He is certainly not getting my vote.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-05-06 05:42 PM
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31. Locking
Flame-Bait.
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