Daddy bush to Jr: "dump Rummie"; Jr. to Daddy: "stuff it"

you just gotta love this ...

the decider is obviously still a brash, spoiled teenager ... honor thy father is apparently not one of his family values ...

That certainly explains a lot, if true. Pissypants strikes again.

"I'm the decider not you me me me you're not the boss of me"

i will ... i mean it ... i'm counting to three ...

in private. I have to believe Poppy has told Shrub numerous time that he's blowin' it! I can also believe Shrub said in effect "F-OFF!"

I hope I live long enough to to see Shrub fade into anonymous oblivion. Something like Ford (what do you ever hear about him except that he's friends with Carter?), but worse because nobody will ask him to speak anywhere, and the blame for his errors will not go away in his lifetime! Unfortunately, since I'm already 62, I may not witness it!

i hope they turn him over to an Iraqi court ... maybe a little torture to get him to tell the truth about what he did to the Iraqi prisoners ... bush no longer believes the Geneva convention's restrictions on torture are applicable ...

and then maybe a few months in Abu Ghraib before we finally turn him over to the people of Haditha ...

gee, was i too harsh? it seems like a "just reward" ... what goes around comes around ...

thanks for posting. (reaches into the cabinet to pull out a bottle of champagne)

But I'm just wondering - what power does Little Big Man Bush really have? I was always under the impression that Einstein was just a Storefront Mannequin, a Hologram President, who did nothing except look good (gag). The real power behind the throne was always CHENEY.

President Cheney. So this battle really comes down to Poppy and Cheney. Cheney obviously wants Rumsfailed to stay, but Poppy wants him out.

Now it IS interesting, because I've read that some big movers & shakers are working behind the scenes to make some changes. James Baker seems to be surfacing. Apparently, the retired generals got together to pull Bush's hand away from the red button.

Things are going on behind the scenes, for sure.

i think it's probably too speculative to read the tea leaves from this article ... you're right, though, that junior is not the head puppeteer ...

i like the article for it's "embarrass bush" value ...

Seriously, on top of all the problems and shortcomings the pResident has, he also has issues with one-upping and basically doing the opposite of what Dad suggests. If Dad had demanded he keep Rumsfield, I bet he'd have dumped him. This is not good....

for that reason. Apologies to Peter Schickele and PDQ Bach... ;)

Todd in Beerbratistan

This is the same "man" who didn't listen to his father when he invaded Iraq.

The elder Bush's intervention was an extraordinary attempt to rescue simultaneously his son, the family legacy and the country.

So we have an ex-CIA ex-President, who is unelected at the moment, trying to sneak in his own choice for defense secretary, but his son who was put into office by the Supreme Court, and who may not actually be the President(the vote, Cheney, whatever), says no. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, we have a military that has been spanning the globe for about a century, and before that was expanding west, making sure nobody stood in the way of that expansion.. The wealthy are the only people that can make it to an election because the corporations are lawfully human and control the game through the media, which is owned by a handful of corporations, which advertise the crap sold by a handful of stores, which are manufactured by a handful of companies, which encircle the globe trying to find the most desperate people to work for them. The only reason we have rights are because of the black gold in the ground and its ability to free up time using automation, which allows actual humans to protest, and that oil finances the system and allows the global corporations to create expendable people, which then produce the stuff other expendable people use.

What are we doing again?

"at least we ain't got locusts" ...

what indeed are we doing???

The "decider" is a toddler.

in order to give Rumsfeld an honorable out and to give the appearance that Bush, Jr is all for him. I think some of the House and Senate leadership is pressuring the White House to get rid of Rummy but they are looking for the best way to do it.