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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:30 PM
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What if Gore ran as a Green in 2008?
Besides blowing the expert pundits right out of the water, what do you think would happen?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:31 PM
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1. He'd split the vote with the dem candidate and we'd have a repub pres
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:32 PM
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3. Agree. He'd doom us to another four years of dumb and mean n/t
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:32 PM
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4. Agree.
Terrible Idea!!
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:24 PM
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20. agreed - losing proposition all around. n/t
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lindisfarne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:02 AM
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29. Agreed. Although he could run for his local school board as a green.n/t
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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:31 PM
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2. We'd suddenly have million of "Greens" in this country because............
......Gore would blow both parties right out of the water.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:32 PM
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5. Wouldn't happen. Ever. NT
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Buck Laser Donating Member (566 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:33 PM
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6. Very. Bad. Idea!!
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:35 PM
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7. Please, no. I want him to WIN!
Besides, dems should BE green!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:37 PM
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8. A big part of Gore's popularity right now is his appeal to state
Democratic operatives.

If he jumped ship, they would be unlikely to jump with him. They'd likely stay with the Democratic scaffolding that brung 'em to the dance.

That's not to say that Gore wouldn't attract many Green votes -- and that would be ironic because many Greens' loyalty to Nader AGAINST Gore in 2000 is still an open wound for many.

Gore is going to be very formidable as a Democrat.

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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:37 PM
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9. The Republicans could run Tom Delay and win. Yay.
Edited on Thu Jun-08-06 04:40 PM by kenny blankenship
(with Duke Cunningham on the bottom half of the ticket).
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:37 PM
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10. Could we get Perot to run again?
Gore would only split Dem. votes as a Green I would think. We need a Repub. to go Libertarian or someone that would split the Repub. vote.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:40 PM
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13. The exit polls I saw showed Perot pulling from dems and repubs
pretty equally. We need a Jesus Party or Anti-gay party or something.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:39 PM
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11. Hell would freeze over. Gore is a loyal Democrat
There is nothing in his character that would have him go against his history and belief system.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 07:00 AM
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31. If he thinks the party is corrupt
Maybe he'd ditch it.

Sometimes I have my doubts as to who really controls our party. Democratic voters or DC insiders with mafia ties.
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:40 PM
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12. Could he change his name to "Ralph Nader" first? n/t
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:41 PM
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14. he'd do better than Nader (and we could all ride flying pigs to go vote).
he'd never do it and he'd never win.
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godhatesrepublicans Donating Member (343 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:43 PM
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15. The clueless "lose at any cost" national Dem machine would run Hillary...
who'd get maybe ten votes total. (She's lost all credibility IMHO by trying to appeal to the Right wing by taking a pro-war stance, showing she has no beliefs other than that she wants to be popular with 51% of the electorate. The party hacks would support her, and no one else would if the choice was between her or Gore.)

The Repugs would go with McCain in an attempt to separate from the Bush meltdown in popularity, but he'll fail to fire up Bush's former base OR the few remaining "sane" Repubs. I'd predict token Repub turnout.

Gore would then win in a landslide.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:45 PM
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16. He would lose just like he would if he ran as a Democrat
and in the process he would put another Republican in the White House.
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:51 PM
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17. He wouldn't do that to the dems.
A true democrat wouldn't do it.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 04:56 PM
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18. The republicans would win the white house
If you split the democratic base between a democratic and green candidate and the republicans vote for one candidate - of course the republicans win!
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:10 PM
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19. Golly Gee! Bush is at 33% - let's split the other 67% of the vote? Cause
otherwise Dems might win!!
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mike923 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:41 AM
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36. Bush isn't running.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 03:54 PM
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38. Okay, Repubs in Congress are even lower.. say 30%. Same diff. Why
would we go and split our vote?

Left wing progressive Dems are 21%. 40% Are moderates (many of them may be Dems at this point and some probably always vote Dem). And 30% are of course hard core baser-instinctives.

So really - you can run away with part of that 21%.. many, many will stay in the big tent. So if you run away with 10% of the Dem vote and start your own party.. why would you do that?
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:27 PM
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21. What if Gingrich ran as a Democrat in 2008?
Might as well ask that question, given that it's just as likely.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 05:35 PM
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22. We'd have four more years of insanity.
It would guarantee that the Repugs would win because the progressive vote would be split.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:02 PM
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23. He'd piss off Nader.
Especially if he ran against Nader for the Green nomination... I think they'd be a good ticket either way though. It might also cause the Dems to lose another Presidential campaign. That is, of course, unless the Conservatives start a third party and run their guy.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:07 PM
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24. He won't.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 06:11 PM
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25. He would lose and so would the Democrat. Anymore questions?
???
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-08-06 07:41 PM
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26. Frankly, I would rather see him run as a Democrat.
He could unify the true Democrats plus push aside Hillary in the process. He is no longer beholden to the corporate fatcats who have wormed their way into the Democratic Party (see DLC!). He should have shown the passion and fight he has now in 2000! He would have beaten Chimp Boy hands down. I would want him to run to upstart Hillary's quest for the nomination. A nomination for Hillary would be a recipe for disaster for the Democrats. You know it and I know it!


John
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thatsrightimirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:21 AM
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27. What would he accomplish?
He wouldn't win and there will be a Republican president
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:45 AM
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28. We'd end up with another Repug. president. n/t
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 06:58 AM
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30. Might encourage a credible right-leaning third party challenger too
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:06 AM
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32. Couldn't happen. Won't happen.
If we can be certain of anything, it's that Al Gore will never abandon the Democratic Party.

He believes very strongly in the party and he also believes in the primary process.

Gore believes that once the primaries are over - everyone has to get behind the nominee.

If Gore runs again then you can be sure it will be on the Democratic ticket.

If not then he will actively campaign in support the Democratic ticket - just like he did in 2004.

He worked very hard for John Kerry, even though he had supported Howard Dean in the primaries.

In Gore We Trust
www.algore.org :)
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:25 AM
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33. Oddly perpetuates the main problem
Right man, right ideas, wrong campaign in a rigged field that would enjoy another gaffe enabling a GOP continuance. If running with the Greens is a real choice then running with the Dems is better, as the situation stands now. Ten years of changes and the possibilities could be quite different, since Gore is a real natural choice for Greens as opposed to Nader. It would be the first time there would not be a third party that was the cult or brainchild of the lead candidate(Perot, LaFollette, Wallace, TR Roosevelt) and nothing else after. Both parties imploding seems incredible but they sure are trying hard by trying hard to fail. Others joining with Gore would seem to be a natural response to mankind's real worst crisis. The subsequent collapse of capitalism as we know it might even engender a mutated variation of a socialist party or the reactionary extremism of a real Nazi party.

Political sci-fi like "The DaVinci Code" is theological sci-fi. At the moment anyway.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:28 AM
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34. Would split the dem vote and
he might finish in 2nd at best. But there would be a Repub Pres.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:41 AM
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35. He'd split the vote and I'd be one of the people that vote for him.
In the end we'd have another Republican in the White House.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:48 PM
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37. Even if JESUS ran as a green, we'd lose.
Too many people are so stuck on the 'D' label, in some regards with good reason in our two-party/one corporate master system, that even if this Jesus guy were around today, the vote would be split.

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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 08:46 PM
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39. I wouldn't vote for him if he ran as a Green
It seems to me that one would be casting a vote Against the Democratic party, not FOR Gore.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:20 PM
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40. What if we all had ponies? (n/t)
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StatGirl Donating Member (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 09:55 PM
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41. He should be the Green nominee . . .
. . . *and* the Democratic nominee. Both parties should get behind him.

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