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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:29 AM
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What Should House Dems Do About Rep. Jefferson?
Should he stay on the Appropriations Committee. The CBC is supporting his continued tenure there. Pelosi and leadership wants him off. Should he resign? How damaging is he to the party? Personally, I have a hard time with his remaining in Congress. I realize that he hasn't been charged yet, but between the money in the freezer and the video and audio tapes, it looks pretty damning. He's offered to give an explanation, but has yet to do so. I know damn well that if he were a repuke, I'd be all for his resignation. I don't see any reason to have a different stance just because he's a dem.

I'm curious about what other folks think.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:32 AM
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1. If he doesn't come up with an explanation fast, he needs to go.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 11:32 AM
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2. Same...
If he's guilty he needs to go. Simple as that. We can't hedge on things like that. We are supposed to hold a higher standard for ourselves and must do so if we hope to win back the House and Senate.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:16 PM
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3. Send him home...then demolish his house.. The man is a disgrace
He's a blight on the Democratic party. Damn him!

I know, I know, he hasn't been found guilty ...yet.

How can one have MARKED bills in his freezer and a video of him receiving the money. If he is inocent...I apologize profusely!
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:17 PM
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4. Freeze him out!
As soon as possible...
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:27 PM
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5. Going against the grain...I say do nothing unless/until he's indicted
Then strip of him committee posts. But even then I wouldn't publicly demand that he resign his seat (although I'd try to convince some of his close supporters to suggest to him that the best thing to do is to step down).

As bad as it looks, I guess I still lean towards "innocent until proven guilty" and all that enough to say that it would be premature (and set a terrible precedent) to force members to resign based on allegations that haven't ripened into a formal charge.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:00 PM
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7. I do see your point
and I think it's a good one. However, under the circumstances I see no reason why he should retain his Committee seats.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 12:47 PM
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6. He should be forced to resign.
The evidence against him is overwhelming.

The Dems need to be pristine in this battle against the Culture of Corruption. Jefferson is a fly in the ointment and needs to go ASAP.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:06 PM
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8. My understanding is that other Congress critters who have
been idicted were allowed to retain their committee seats..

Why does the rules change for Jefferson?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:18 PM
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9. I didn't know that, but it makes
little difference to me. Each case should be looked at individually. In this case the evidence against Jefferson is overwhelming. Can you honestly think of a legitimate reason why he'd have 90,000 bucks in marked bills hidden in his freezer? It isn't like he's come out and claimed someone planted the money there. Not to mention that he's on tape discussing bribes and accepting a brief case full of money. Frankly, I find the CBC defense of Jefferson rather bewildering.
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:29 PM
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11. The CBC have been the only ones (almost) who haven't sold
this counry out !

Sure I believe Jefferson is guilty, but the ? still is... Why does the rules change for him?
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lonehalf Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 02:47 PM
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12. Freezer money.
I heard somewher (sorry, I can;t remember where( that the money was marked.

Does anyone know if this is true?
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:21 PM
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13. Hi lonehalf!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 01:25 PM
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10. I don't care if he's guilty or not, right now.
He should resign not only his committee seat, but also his congressional seat until such time as he is fully exonerated (like that might happen).

Innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept I fully support. The perception of guilt is enough to make him a huge political liability.

He needs to just go.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-10-06 03:36 PM
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14. Depends. If we ever plan on using the phrase -
- "Culture of Corruption" while pointing our fingers at the 'pugs, then Jefferson has to go and go fast. Right now he's a political boomerang and he'll just fly right back in our faces come election time.
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