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ElboRuum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:00 PM
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Poll question: Which best represents your current attitudes toward the environment?
I was involved just very recently in a debate with a few cynics and nihilists about the futility or lack thereof of environmental concern on the purported eve of Global Climate Collapse (TM). Kinda got me wondering about the degree of commitment we actually have regarding this issue.

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:05 PM
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1. That language is really hard to follow...
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:08 PM
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2. america won't do shit until there's a crisis
and then we won't be able to talk the chinese into caring.

its going to happen. the sea level will rise.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:21 PM
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3. Everyone wants the world to be a better place;
few are willing to make sacrifices or life style changes to make it so.

I think on the part of some there is laziness & lack of concern, but I think most suffer from a sense of futility. "How can anything one person does possibly make a difference?"

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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:32 PM
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5. One person can't change the world but a unifed group can.
Why the hell do you think I sign and send off all of these petitions that come on my e-mail to my congressmen. They pay off too!!!!
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:25 PM
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4. Some of us are already doomed (where us is planet wide)

and many millions more are likely doomed.

And the rest of us can do something about it, which may save most of us.

But our relation to the planet has to change, this planet cannot support 8 billion people, and even 4 billion or 2 billion may be too many to support in a western lifestyle which many on this planet yearn for. After oil and energy is solved, the next crises will be food and fresh water. More energy will be needed to create the food and fresh water that we use, energy we do not have and may not be able to afford.

Anyway, likely many millions (and perhaps billions) are doomed. The question is whether or not that will cause the fall of civilization completely and the resulting massive loss of life in the resulting resource wars (think of the Gobi desert increasing in size by a factor of two... what will China do? What about India when they can no longer pump water to irrigate their crops - the water table in Punjab is dropping by 4 to 10 FEET per year).
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-09-06 05:39 PM
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6. That is when the Four Horsemen take control.
War - Pestilence - Flood - Famine!!!! They're doing a pretty good job, now!!!
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