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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:54 PM
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This speaks well of John Kerry and Jim Webb
People have their disagreements with John Kerry. But I have never believed the tripe that Kerry was just barely better than Bush. Washington pundits - who drove coverage of the race - continually in 2004 said that both Kerry and Bush represented the extremes of the political spectrum and hyper-partisanship. Where are the great moderates?, cried the pundits. Where are the people who will unify the country? they cried.

Leave aside the question of Kerry in 2008. Leave aside even your political disagreements with John Kerry. There was never anything to indicate that Kerry was an ideologue or someone intent on dividing the country the way Bush was. John Kerry has always been more willing to take criticism and speak face-to-face with those who disagree with him (an attribute he shares, it should be noted, with Bill Clinton, Al Gore and several other Democrats but shockingly few present-day Republicans).

What am I referring to?

> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/02/AR2006060201670.html

Kerry and Webb are decorated Vietnam veterans, but they would hardly be described as close friends. Webb has said he refused for 20 years to shake hands with Kerry because of Kerry's outspoken criticism of the war after his return from Vietnam and his alignment with the antiwar movement.

But Webb went to Kerry's defense after an advocacy group called the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth questioned Kerry's bravery and the legitimacy of the combat medals he received. Webb also said he voted for Kerry in 2004.

The two met privately for several hours three weeks ago and talked again Thursday night. Kerry acknowledged in his statement that "neither of us would deny that we've had our differences over the years."


It speaks well of Jim Webb too.

I don't like today's hyperpartisanship, but the media and the pundits are being dishonest and disingenious when they imply that both sides are equally to blame; Democrats, including our presidential nominees John Kerry and Al Gore, are far more interested in putting country ahead of party and governance above partisanship. It's one party that has been interested in outright ideological warfare, and that's not our side of the aisle.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-12-06 11:58 PM
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1. It's good to hear about this meeting.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 08:53 AM
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7. It's past time that those who were manipulated into believing the protests
against the war caused the loss, wake up and smell the betrayal from the POLITICIANS who negotiated the loss years earlier and didn't care about the loss of life it would take to put up a front.

The Kissinger documents should have been the last nail for that coffin.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 06:00 AM
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2. Kerry is the son of a diplomat and he really always has seemed to
seek common ground. It's clear from his remarks that he is doing this because he thinks it's best for the country and the Democratic party. Remember, it was Webb, not Kerry, who wouldn't shake the others hands - Kerry long ago held out his hand. He even forgave Nixon and Colson for harrasing him in the 1970s. One of the things I like best about his positions is that they are always well thought out and attempts to find a workable solution - rather than ideological.

I would need to see more on Webb to agree that he did much. The article overstates his support in 2004 and ignores that he actually trashed Kerry in 2004 - which understates the generorisity of Kerry's strong effort. Webb here had everything to gain in accepting an endorsement that may well move a block of people who would have voted against him because of this. (Note also that his comment about "nitpicking a 35 year old service record" is pretty faint praise of Kerry as Kerry is helping him.) It's clear to me who the bigger man is here and it sure isn't Webb.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 07:59 AM
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3. Thanks for posting! It's a terrific statement! n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 08:41 AM
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4. I fully respect Kerry and his judgement. He has been able to convince
me that Webb is a good man. And, in turn, I have a new respect for Webb, because he has demonstrated he can put the past behind him and come together for the good of all.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 08:47 AM
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5. I believe Kerry appeared at a Webb rally yesterday.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 08:53 AM
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6. Yep, he did.
Edited on Tue Jun-13-06 08:53 AM by DinahMoeHum
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/6/12/192619/946 (scroll down about 2/3)

http://raisingkaine.com/frontPage.do

Looks like Kerry and Webb "buried the hatchet".


:kick:
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 09:11 AM
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8. Good for Kerry
I'm glad they could work out their differences and find common ground for the Dems :thumbsup:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-13-06 09:45 AM
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9. Today's the Virginia Primary
With hopes it will be Webb who challenges George Allen in the fall.

Thank you JK :hi:
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