No, Mary, it's not your turn

Mary Cheney, America's top self-loathing lesbian, made waves last month when her new book, "Now It's My Turn", hit the shelves. Apparently, as the title indicates, she had been waiting patiently to speak, presumably while her party tried to legislate her out of existence. Unburdened by reality and with the fury of pent-up rage within, Cheney set out to stalk the bestseller lists.

Her opening flourish was impressive, as it should have been to warrant her reported $1 million advance from Simon and Schuster. Calling a presidential candidate a "son of a bitch" and his vice presidential candidate - no, not her father - a "total slime" drew notice, as did her claim that the Democrats used her sexual orientation as a political ploy.

But a funny thing happened on the way to literary success: Cheney's not enjoying any. Her book has only sold less than 6,000 copies since its May 9 release. During the week of June 3, for instance, "Now It's My Turn" sold a mere 574 copies. So while it may be somebody's turn, it's most certainly not Cheney's.

Cheney's push to sell books started the same way most right-wing pushes go: Lash out at Democrats. Cheney criticized 2004 Democratic presidential hopeful John Kerry and his vice presidential candidate John Edwards for mentioning her during the debates. When Edwards discussed her during the vice presidential debate with her father, Cheney went so far as to mouth the words at Edwards that her father made famous a few years ago: Go fuck yourself. Looks like the quail didn't fall too far from the hunter. She also accused the pair of playing "sleazy" politics by mentioning her sexual orientation.

That Cheney thinks the Democrats use sexual orientation as a political ploy is a notion as laughable as her book sales. Which party used statewide gay marriage bans to lure conservative voters to the polls in 2004? Which party is actively seeking to keep gay Americans from adopting? Which party spent valuable time last week proclaiming as their top priority a constitutional ban on gay marriage, a priority shared by only 3 percent of bigoted Americans? Oh, that's right, the Republican Party.

The Republican Party, Mary, isn't your party. It's the party of Rick Santorum. It's the party of James Dobson. It's the party of Pat Robertson. It's the party that thinks cartoon characters are turning young Americans into young gay Americans. It's the party that says movies like "Brokeback Mountain" try to "humanize homosexuality". It's the party that would rather take up a doomed amendment that would take away your rights than address Iraq, Iran, terrorism or immigration.

These people don't like you, Mary. If you weren't Mary Cheney, daughter of the vice president, and instead were Mary Jones, lesbian American, you would be treated with the same disdain your peers are every day. It's not like it's good for you now, even, seeing that Alan Keyes considers what you do "selfish hedonism". Tell me, do you consider yourself a selfish hedonist, Mary? Or do you simply consider yourself a human being, one worthy of the same rights, privileges and dignities afforded everyone else in this country? Now, ask yourself which party is actively trying to deny you those rights, privileges and dignities. Think about your answer the next time you consider calling Kerry a "son of a bitch" or Edwards a "total slime".

Were they trying to score political points, Mary? No, they were trying to call attention to the fact that your party considers you something less than them, something not quite human. Referring to you as a lesbian isn't something that riles up the Democratic base. Why? Because "gay" isn't a four-letter word to our party like it is to yours. Because your sexual orientation doesn't insult our party like it does yours. To us, you're just as American as anyone else. Just as deserving of a fair shake. Just as worthy of the American dream. Take off your partisan blinders, Mary, and embrace the truth. On our side of the aisle, you're not the enemy.

Who did you think would buy your book, Mary? Self-loathing gay Americans looking for something especially ironic to flagellate themselves with? Republicans looking to pride themselves on how their mythical big tent includes a lesbian? Democrats looking for your excuse for remaining silent so long? Because, if you look at who is buying it from Amazon, you'll find yourself in unfriendly territory, grouped with such notable bigots at Ann Coulter. Hell, you can even buy your book and hers in a package deal. Hate yourself and hate everyone else, all for one convenient price!

It doesn't appear as though many people care to hear your side of things, Mary. Your book sales are so poor that your publishing company would need to see a profit of $166 on every book sold thus far to break even, considering your hefty advance. Color me pessimistic, but I don't see that happening. So no, Mary, it's not your turn. And it never will be, so long as you look the other way while your party tries to legislate you and others like you into second-class citizenship.

She may have internalized the bullshit she's supposedly written, but the bottom line is that she stands to inherit a bundle if she doesn't piss her parents off.

Brilliant as always. Damn funny too.

After waking up to the news that the pig Rove won't be charged, it was wonderful to read that Mary's sales figures were lower than *'s approval rating. And might I add...Bwah-HAH!

without a post :hi: Great essay!

:toast:

Sorry Mary, you just don't have the knack for vitriol and corrosiveness that the real assholes do.

a total sellout, a goddamn cunt!
I fucking hate her!

only cuz you took the words right out of my mouth!! Now what am I suppose to say? Okay, in this instance and this instance only, consider me a dittohead!

n/t

Mary is reaping her just desserts.

BWWWAAAAHHHHH

:)

Didn't she? It seems the publisher is the oone who is getting the just deserts for promoting and foisting this rubbish on the public...I only wish that the publisher was Regenery!

She has the economic exemption from bigotry. No matter how hateful and hurtful her party of choice is to her and others of her innate sexual orientation, she will always be left off the lists because of family connections and the fabulous sums of money she "earned" with her book.

I wonder if noted publishing industry pundit Tucker Carlson will care to weigh in on whether Simon & Schuster will make back its advance on Mary's book? Or is the advance they paid for this rock bottom remainder simply an investment in the Republican Corruption Machine? It's been a bull market for those investments, but if the Democrats take back either the House or the Senate, look for the bottom to drop out and the return on those investments will decline precipitously.

Afterall, it is the Party for cynical hypocrites.

and you will find gay sons ,daughters,cousins,uncles,and aunts..mary is nothing if it wasn`t for her father which as it turns out really isn`t anything at all.

I've never understood the other gay conservative Republicans like Andrew Sullivan or Desperate Housewives creator Marc Cherry. Why give your loyalty to a party which despises you?

Mary's situation is a more extreme example, given all of the very specific anti-gay stances taken by the Rethugs, but think of all of the lower-class, NASCAR, trailer-park folk who flippin' ADORE BushCo, even though *'s Billionaire Posse would want nothing more to do with them than with gays, blacks, poor folk, etc. The Chimp could literally piss in their eyes and they would still thank the Lord for him and his holy wee-wee.

But they recognise the need for their votes. After all, there are a lot more of them than there are gays. That's why, while they may secretly despise Joe Nascar, they will still say nice things about him, whereas they will never say nice things about gay people.

because they want to do away with the inheritance tax.

Re "Why give your loyalty to a party which despises you?"

I can't imagine any other reason in her case.

Anyone who thought advancing $1mil to the lesbian daughter of a VP whose party has totally degraded anything not straight was a boneheaded idea. Republicans are not interested in her book nor is the GBLT community who finds Ms. Cheney's williness to allow her dad's party to make her a 5th class citizen.

giving RW slime any platform!

at the watercooler to run by them the idea of a million for Mary's book would have seen a unanimous shaking of heads. A no-brainer. Some of these publishing folks are clueless! Banking on the "shame factor" for bringing out the buyers. No sale.

Her book "sales" are justice enough.

Mary Cheney is truly the poster child for cognitive dissonance.

Just how powerful the corrupting effects of Republican parents can be? Another fine example of a Republican being a Republican against their best interests. Though, admittedly, so long as she is part of that Dynasty, and so long as it's in power, it may well work to her financial advantage--but if that's a key reason she's a Republican, it's just further evidence of her moral corruption (again learned from her parents).

I guess you could say it is a loss leader. Heh.

So, I would think it would be less than $150,000.

And I repeat...

more like $35-40 thousand.

Sorry...I started this post before others, making the same point (and doing it better) appeared.

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you seem very confused... in what way is anything that was posted here homophobic?


on edit: darn, you deleted that post too quickly, you should have let them gather some more rope first

She's bashing Dems which people on the Right normally enjoy, but as a lesbian they would just rather she got hit by a car, fell off a cliff and was eaten by a mountain lion than to buy one of her books.
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"Were they trying to score political points, Mary? No, they were trying to call attention to the fact that your party considers you something less than them, something not quite human. Referring to you as a lesbian isn't something that riles up the Democratic base. Why? Because "gay" isn't a four-letter word to our party like it is to yours. Because your sexual orientation doesn't insult our party like it does yours. To us, you're just as American as anyone else. Just as deserving of a fair shake. Just as worthy of the American dream. Take off your partisan blinders, Mary, and embrace the truth. On our side of the aisle, you're not the enemy."

Flawlessly said.

She's either delusional or just not very smart. Every word she says exposes her blatant hypocrisy.

Okay it may not be on a incredibly important issue but that was fantastic. Well done.

the first time in amazon.com history that the number of reviews exceeds the actual number of sales :D

Jesus, this needs to be plastered on billboards everywhere.

Without all the millionaires bulk-buying these books and giving them away for pennies in conservative book clubs, this is how much a conservative writer really sells? Amazing. Truly Amazing. Because the conservs just don't want to read about queers.Man, if there ever was an example of just why Mary needs to be a liberal, this is the one. Plus it makes me think the conserves don't really appreciate what unca Dick had done to their party, through pulling W's strings.

I used to sell new books on Ebay, and had her books "Slander" and "Treason", I think. At that time I was apolitical, and had no idea who she was. They sold steadily, usually for 7 or 8 bucks, which was pretty good with all the competition online. A REALLY good book - Neil Young's bio was one, DaVinci code was another, went for 12 or 14 or more, so she wasn't quite up there with them, but she sold.

It was actually by reading "The Lies of George Bush" back then (which I was also selling, and which sold well), that got me interested in what was going on in this country, and eventually led me here.

Had I known at the time what I was selling when I was selling Ann Coulter's books, I wouldn't have sold them. It's a bit of solace to me to know she didn't get any money from my sales, anyway. What's disturbing to me now is knowing how many people actually DID buy her book. To think that there are people out there who agree with her, is terrifying to me.

Mary Cheney will be selling for 1 cent on Amazon Marketplace soon - that's where the losers go!

with dandelions and crabgrass
faux silver bells and plastic cockle shells
and one big peculiar place where poison Ivy grows

where is dicky me??on sc@ife and the other richwing sugar daddies when you need him to buy up all your books to dump in his warehouses like he does with all the other right wing drivel (ann coulter et al) . he is deafeningly silent on this one....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...oh wait...he is so far into the self loathing closet he can't even get near a gay person for fear someone might point the finger...if you and your publishers can't sell your clap trap hypocrisy to him, which i'd bet they were counting on, you are in deep doo doo

great piece as usual Bobcat! :thumbsup:

in more ways than one. She is a disgrace - to gays, to republicans (if you can be a disgrace to republicans - seems an oxymoron or some kind of moron), to her parents (not for being gay but for being a bitch - oh wait, they LIKE that), to herself, to humanity, oh hell, she's just a disgrace, period.

Very good article. Newspaper op-ed page quality. No - seriously! I printed it out and added it to my growing file of political stuff.

Yeah, I don't understand Mary Cheney. Wouldn't it just be easier to vote Democrat and for her best interests instead of Republican and against her best interests? I guess that because Daddy's a prominent Republican, she feels that she has to tow the family's party line.

Speaking of dirty campaign tactics: she ought to talk to Rove about that. He's the reigning master. * would've never gotten elected without fear and dirty politics.
Ringo

Everybody wins. Or nobody, really. Just the assholes.

I'm sure going to post a link to this one in my blog. Damn fine essay, as usual! Thank you for posting this!

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She should have kept her mouth shut. Now everybody has a beef with her.

The more she talks, the worse it gets for her.

So, in the spirit of rabid partisanship, keep it up, Mary.

Did she really think that the right wing neo-con murdering culture would gobble up this piece of crap book? She is pathetic.

--Of 6 customer reviews at Amazon, 4 give it one star ("Um. Good lord this is bad"), 1 gives 2 stars, 1 gives 3.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/141652049X/sr=8-1/qid=1150234818/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-1214498-6469452?%5Fencoding=UTF8

I suspect abyssmal sales are also true of Scam Coldturd's book, outside of the bulk sales which make it appear to be a bestseller. How come if that one is "#1" (wink wink) on Amazon, it's not in the Top 10 in the NYTimes Book Review list?

on edit: oops, my bad. there are actually 84 reviews on Amazon of Cheney's. I see some 5-stars ("reading it simultaneously with Dr. (sic) Dobson's") but a s**tload of 1s.

that her "father's" Party used the "gay" "anti"-agenda as their platform NOT the Democrats...She's such a gullible gal! :evilgrin:

Mary Cheney and victimhood are mutually exclusive. Mary Cheney is available to the highest bidder regardless of principles. In fact, to presume she has principles is absurd. She is singularly motivated by self-interest. Like her father before her, she long ago learned that a bank account full of cash is the greatest source of independence and choice. Mary Cheney is gay because she has sex with a woman...but beyond that fact she is a card carrying conservative. Her life as a lesbian is not constrained by the day to day obstacles faced by most homosexuals. The mere fact that she held the position she did in the 2004 reelection campaign speaks to how the system works. No other admitted high profile homosexual would have stood a chance of having the same position. Mary Cheney has never taken turns...she has been provided a place at the front of the line...with her hand fully extended...and with the knowledge that she will always be on the receiving end of the equation...that being receiving cash and a free ride...no pun intended.

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I really hope she reads it, though I'm not holding my breath.

I know that's a minor point compared to everything else. But it doesn't say much to me about an author or her editor if the best they could do would be to call someone a "total slime" (even if it were true, which it isn't). That's the kind of teenage-girl-lazy phrase reserved for emails, message boards, and casual conversation, not a published piece worthy of a $1 million advance. I'm not saying I haven't used the phrase myself, but it makes her sound like an idiot when used in this context. Why doesn't she just say "OH. MY. GAWD. John Edwards is like such a total slime. I swear, if he mentions that I am a lesbian one more time in public I am soooo going to spread a rumor that he smoked pot behind the speakers at at the convention and then hooked up with that skank Janene Garafalo when Elizabeth wasn't looking."

All I can say for Mary herself is that I hope all the money she's going to get from Daddy was worth selling out every gay American into second-class citizenship. What am I talking about? She's Dick Cheney's daughter! She learned from the master of "I got mine, fuck the rest of you all."

Quite the miscalculation. Mary's laughing all the way to the bank, ot course, but the marketing strategies of this publisher certainly need to be called into question.

Were rank and file gays and lesbians who overwhelmingly disagree with the GOP's right-wing homophobic politics going to purchase this book? NOOOOOO!

Were Taliban Christianistas who fear and loathe all gays going to buy it? NOOOOOO!

Was the disinterested middle, more concerned with footing the weekly gasoline bill, going to fork over their precious bucks? NOOOOO!

So just who are these 6,000 people? GOOD QUESTION!

to the these idiots' strategy for selling books. Just attack Dems, cause controversy, and they think the book will sell big.

If they don't quite energize their audiences with the usual mudslinging routine, then they could liven it up a bit with some down and dirty mudWRESTLING!

Howzabout: BEER DYKE vs. THE ABOMINABLE ADAM'S APPLE ??

Conservatives would not want to support someone with her "lifestyle".
Liberals would not want to support someone with her "lifestyle".

It's just that the "lifestyle" problems are different for each population, but the result is, she has no audience.

Mary Cheney, like all Log Cabin Republicans, is one of many self loathers. Mary Cheney was raised by two of the most despicable humans I can think of, so I can see how she'd be f***** up mentally and emotionally enough to loathe herself as a gay person. She's also always been sheltered by the Secret Service, so that she's completely out of touch with the gay community, I'm sure. Log Cabin Republicans, though, are a mystery to me. I'm not gay so I have no clue what it's like to be gay. Perhaps it gets tiring being different and having to fight for rights, and these people got to a point where they wanted to join the very people that despise them?

you would support a party that doesn't support basic rights for you.

Maybe I'm missing something...........??

K&R...btw. :kick:

I had wondered who the hell she thought would buy her book when she first started hitting the airwaves trying to push it. I guess she thought that by bad-mouthing Democrats she would have an automatic market from the right-wing zealots who support her father. Did she not understand that they only put up with her because of who her father is? I suppose not.

I'm sure that she didn't expect GLBT community to lay down their hard earned cash. Why would they read anything from an apologist for those who blame homosexuality for everything from hurricanes to war to pedophilia. I'm serious, what was this bitch thinking?

The problem with Mary Cheney is that she has been raised with such privilege and sense of entitlement that she has no grasp of the reality of the GBLT community. Why should she care about all of the hateful rhetoric her party spouts? Why should she give a damn about the unconstitutional laws they are pushing? Her dad is Dick Fuck Off Cheney! It doesn't matter that the democratic party actually CARES about the rights of homosexuals because she doesn't!

Thank you for posting such a well written statement! I need to show it to my lesbian teen-age daughter. She hasn't been raised with a spoon in her mouth like Mary Cheney, so she actually has had to endure the prejudices that Vice President Evil's daughter has been shielded from.

what a true LOSER IS.

How low can you go Mary?

I guess she hit the plateau of her book sales when she was on every talk show in a week.

She should have just kept plugging, plugging, plugging, Whoops, all the water is gone out of the tub.

No flotation device now.

Sink, way down under

Thank God the American people haven't accepted this latest hypocritical look at public discourse and policy offered up by just another hypocritical fact and logic challenged Republican hack. I have been constantly amazed at the robust sales of of books that exhort America to vote with their wallets and their votes for points of view that do nothing but make life in the United States more divided, meaner, more bigoted, less educated and poorer in both economic and moral terms.

Mary Cheney is exactly analogous to the likes of Michelle Malkin and Alan Keyes, and Phillys Schlafl. All of them support policies that marginalize the demographic to which they belong in exchange for money. What paragons of morality and integrity these Republican/Christian Taliban are.

I hope her book company ships all the unsold copies to Mary with a bill for the expense of publishing her screed.

Interviewed for "Fresh Air". I didn't catch the whole thing but Terry was quizzing her on the administration, etc.

During a discussion on mixing politics and policy (mainly being beholden to the right-winger hard-core Christians who put them in office and pandering to their vote with the anti-gay amendment):

Mary: "I would strongly reject the notion that the Bush/Cheney administration is beholden to any particular group. They have been - the President in particular, who I disagree with on this issue - have always been governing from the point of view of what is best for this country. I would hate to think of a leader who is going to say 'I'm going to govern based upon what is best for, or what is in the interest of, the religious right or the far left'. Anyone who is going to try to govern based upon a splinter of our society - you're president of everyone, you're not president of 'him' - 5% of the population."

( go to http://www.npr.org/dmg/dmg_wmref.php?prgCode=FA&showDate=13-Jun-2006 11 minutes in)

I heard pretty much the entire interview. It was the first I'd ever heard her speak or paid much attention to what she had to say. This is an entirely personal subjective statement but I gotta say she came across as exceedingly hateful and delusional. I say hateful because of how she lashed out at Kerry, Edwards, liberals in general and trial lawyers. And delusional about exactly what you posted, the ties of her father to the wradical wright and the hypocarcy of her father.

But maybe that hate and delusion is more about herself than others as the OP spoke about.