Virginia Election results...

46 precincts (about 1.5%)...Webb slightly ahead 51-49...

Office: U.S. Senate (Democrat)


Precincts Reporting: 125 of 2403 (5.20%)
Registered Voters: 4,516,430 Total Voting: 4,297 Voter Turnout: 0.10 %
Vote Totals Percentage
J H Webb Jr 2,166 50.41%
H N Miller 2,131 49.59%

Which I am surprised at actually!

for Webb (at least the early results)--of course, some of Alex is in Fairfax County, which hasn't reported yet.

My guess is that Fairfax would break for Webb and Arlington for Miller (though I thought Alexandria would go for Miller)

Jay Fisette sent out an endorsement for Webb to Arl. Dems. this week.

It's a pragmatic thing in Arlington--they want to get rid of Allen and think Webb has a better chance in other parts of VA.

If Fairfax and Arlington follow suit that could do it for him...will have to see how Richmond comes in!

still no Fairfax Co or Arlington results in these totals yet

Webb getting north of 60% there...

Arlington not yet included in the totals...but Webb is ahead there as well!

These are not yet in the state totals

http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/eb/webreports/countywide.htm

Fairfax and Arlington have hit his totals...he is up by 5% now

http://sbe.virginiainteractive.org/index.htm

I can't imagine it going for Miller...

the results correctly. It's interesting--I don't know my VA geography very well, but it looks as though the more rural counties are going for Miller and the more urban counties for Webb--just the opposite of what some people expected.

I'm not up on Virginia geography either...although it does look like Miller is taking Richmond, Norfolk and Newport News...

People up here just want Allen gone and so are overlooking Webb's Republican past!

for the candidate with views closest to theirs but in NoVA they are voting for the candidate that they think has a better chance to beat Allen.

heck thats what i did :P

though richmond might tighten the margin a tad bit.

Looking down the list of counties I don't see where Miller picks up any large bloc of voters...

And 2/5 of Arlington still hasn't reported, which is going big for Webb...

Democratic U.S. Senate Primary
69% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Jim Webb (D) 53,920 52%

Harris Miller (D) 49,435 48%

http://www.nbc29.com/news/html/Election.shtm

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(82.65%)
Registered Voters: 4,516,256 Total Voting: 124,136 Voter Turnout: 2.75 %
Vote Totals Percentage
J H Webb Jr 65,738 52.96%
H N Miller 58,398 47.04%

Can we put to rest the talking point that Republicans were going to vote for (the weaker candidate) Miller.

Republicans were going to vote for (the weaker candidate) Miller."

How do we know they didn't? Maybe just not enough of them did, or Webb got a larger share of the vote than they thought he would. I still believe open primaries are an invitation for that sort of mischief... especially from a bunch like the Republicans.

TC

I'm no fan of Webb. Look at Webb a Reagan worshiping, former republican. He beat the pants of a life long Democrat. There no way the republican in any organized number voted for MIller.

If republicans did vote in our primary, they voted for Webb. To be sure all we need to do is look at the primary results from an off year election for the Democrats where the Republicans did have a primary state wide.

... neck and neck... dust is flying... Webb... Miller... Webb...

I don't see anywhere Miller picks up a large bloc of voters...

Webb is pulling away!

Democratic U.S. Senate Primary
83% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Jim Webb (D) 65,738 53%

Harris Miller (D) 58,938 47%


http://www.nbc29.com/news/html/Election.shtm

But didn't Webb just become a Democrat? Wasn't he recently a repuke? If so,and he wins,that's not saying much about people wanting to make a change,is it? :shrug:

Webb was endorsed by Kerry, Schumer and other national Democrats. He's opposed the Iraq War since before it began. He is angry about the mismanagement of the Bush administration and that is what he's campaigning on. But the main factor is that Democrats know Harris Miller has no chance of beating the idiotic but beloved-in-very-conservative-VA George Allen. They want to nominate a candidate who is a decorated vet and who may be able to challenge Allen.

This is a red state and a progressive candidate will have difficulty winning here. It has to be someone who is more of a centrist.

But,I'm glad to see the man winning the primary that has the best chance of kicking Allen out! :hi:

:hi:

Like I said,I didn't know them,it was the first time I saw them,but I thought Webb did a better job at answering Tweety's questions.....and I DO think Webb will win and kick Allen OUT! :hi:

...may be a life-long democrat but he was a former lobbyist and responsible for destroying many jobs through outsourcing. He is also against verified voting and paper trails. He was for the war when it was popular and against it when it got ugly...just like everyone else.

Webb was against the war before it even started and warned that it would be a 30 year occupation. He is liberal on social issues, against Bush tax cuts. The unions endorsed Webb.

I'm a life-long democrat and Webb is much more in line with my views.

I know what you are talking about, but..............he is the best chance of getting rid of George Allen! And, Clark was pub turned dem and I have to say that I have a great deal of respect for Clark.

GO WEBB!!!! (I LOVE Wes,BTW) :hi:

:)

It looks like he's won, too. Goody. ( I hope.)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2674534

Its as much strategery as anything. And isn't it interesting that the Repubs were supposedly exhorting their swarms to go and vote for Miller cuz they fear Webb. (In VA, one can vote in a primary without need to state a party affiliation).

If it means getting rid of Allen then I say elect the man that has a better chance of doing it! Go Webb!!! :hi:

And there are over 7 million residents of Virginia. Divide that in half for people that actually vote and divide that in about another half for those who are democrats and you have approximately 1.75 million people.

My point is that there was approximately a 10% turnout among Democrats for this race. Since turnout is so damn low for primaries, is polling on them really accurate if they poll likely general election voters and not likely primary voters? And do pollsters actually poll likely primary voters or likely general election voters?

has the authentic turnout tally. For this election, it was about 3%. As far as polling does, since turnout is so low, no public polling was ever released on this race. That's one reason why no one really had any predictions heading into tonight.

Webb says he's worked hard--so hard that he's having surgery tomorrow morning and when he thought about it he thought "great--a day off!"

Got a few family members to vote, as well. I got the polls about 12 hours after they opened and I was only the 21st voter of the day. So depressing.

I voted for Miller cause I respected him. I don't care if Kerry or Wes Clark did call me and tell me to vote Webb, i do not vote for fucking Republicans just cause "they might win."

Sorry, but I have more dignity than that.

Besides, who is to say that after he wins, he doesn't just flip his party affiliation again. No thanks!!!!

I was wondering about Virginia Beach and some other places. Maybe some Republicans in the military crossed over to support Webb?

He was a Reagan Democrat, by the way. Did, indeed, start out as a Democrat. Changed over when Democrats were perceived to be anti-military. Democrats were not perceived as such when JFK and Roosevelt were President.

because the turnout % was not high, except in NoVA, where there are mostly Democrats.

Some people hypothesized that crossovers would support Miller so that Allen could more easily win in the fall. So it's really hard to say.

There are a lot of military in the Tidewater area, but it went mostly for Miller. VA Beach went slightly for Webb but Norfolk and Newport News did not--and the Chesapeake results had not been reported last time I checked.

There are a lot of military in some areas of Arlington (near the Pentagon) but Arlington is very blue, and many of the county officials backed Webb because they believed they he had a better chance of giving Allen a tougher fight. It appears that throughout NoVA a lot of Dems used this rationale.