True or False : Repubs are better at politics than Democrats?

Perhaps it is simple the structure of the Parties? Because Republicans do not have to support the least amongst us, the poor, the handicapped, the sick, the elderly, they are at freedom to attack every government program and to play to the greedy nature of people with their promises of tax cuts and "keeping their money". The Republicans do not have to be concerned about the rights of minorities or gays or groups that are discriminated against. They are whitebread and "mainstream". That's why they are better at politics than Democrats. Just my opinion.

Democrats care - they even care about the least of the Republicans.

Slash and burn isn't politics. It's hate. They are great at hate. They are piss poor at politics, the art of compromise. Just as you shouldn't confuse ruthlessness with intelligence, you can't confuse hate with strategy.

The problem with hate is that it eventually stops working unless it's combined with action. I'm not convinced they're ready to declare a shooting war against the majority of people in this country.

They ARE a shrinking minority, remember.

just ask the execs at diebold.}(

Just as "Gingrich's Genius" was simply the thuggish ending of civility in discussion with his GOPAC newsletter full of focus-grouped accusatory language, it's not genius but simply breaking the rules to win.

And the core story of Rove's "legend" demonstrates it clearly and can be used against him/them.

It is the story of his reading and applying the principles of Sun Tzu's "Art of War" to politics.

The boobs among the DC/Euphemedia Analstocracy exalt this, but if you stop for a moment and point out the reality the story works against him/them. His intent was to "make war" against his fellow Americans. That's the bottom line.

Tell the story this way as often as you can. And remind people of what his "war on the rest of us" has wrought.

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with the computerization of the vote, they have raised the potential for corruption to a level beyond the wildest dreams of the late Mayor Richard Daley of Chicago.

The republican leaders use wedge issues, lies and propaganda to manipulate the people. Democrats use reason and truth. It is usually the righteous underdogs who have to struggle the hardest against a corrupt leadership of greedy rulers.

* media buys
* paid staff
* institutional support
* think-tanks
* corporate bundling
* PACs

On the other hand, we have more effective new media, 501C3s, the unions, more diverse support, and greater small donor commitment. And, oh ya, the idiocy and failures of the Bush Administration and GOP Congress on our side.

Republicans seem to like some one to do things from the top and tell them this is right and Dem. are all over the place. Since the world in the last 100 years has moved to wards a more liberal form of government, around the world, I would say liberals have been better at getting what they think out in to the world. That we are moving from the top country in the world I think is scary to so many Americans they think they may have been wrong. Of course one country never stays on top for ever but this is scary to so many of us. And now the very thing that made so many look up to us is ground in the dust by these same people who live in that scary world of not being top dog. It shows in the endless yelling for God and Bush and flag etc.

Uh, well, the repub LEADERS seem to be good at exploiting the fear and greed and ignorance of the masses enough to stay in power and screw over the many for the benefit of the few.

Their power to wreck the future and rape every principle that used to make this a good country is pretty awesome. And their ability to get the masses to vote against their own best interest is also pretty awesome.

But if politics is about vision, leadership and a better future for all they just can't suck enough.

Their "politics" will benefit the world about as good as Hitler's did back in his time.

-85% Jimmy with a rev limiter


to quote a cool bumper sticker:
WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?
VOTE DEMOCRAT IN 06 AND FIND OUT!

The odd part is their ideals do not hold up around the world in the long run. Watch how they run. They will start using Dem. ideals to run on even if they are set in how they rule. So it is a mixed bag. They have learned how to run and they do that on liberal ideals but they do not rule that way once they are in power. So it is really running for office as one point and putting your laws into place in other. Many of Bush's plans have been put into play with out over sight and he does not follow the law, which he signs saying he will not do. Ending up running a gov. like big corp. does not work. Dem. are ground up and not CEO down type systems. Right now GOP is better at running for office than Dem.

There are so many more repuke thieves than Democratic that it boggles the mind. They have no qualms about doing the most despicable act just to get voted in.

The few Repukes I know seem to want a "leader." They are content following whatever they are told. It seems to me that they don't want to think, work, participate, etc. As long as their lives are going along, they don't want the obligation to do anything. And those who are voting against their best interests are just plain naive. They think they have a better chance of becoming a rich ceo than a poor homeless person. That "American Dream" which is slowly turning into a nightmare.

And I am glad of it...

deception.. they care not who they hurt through their lust and greed in the acquisition of wealth and power..

to a Fascist poverty is a vice, even tho they create and exploit that poverty..

Republicans as a group are essentially mentally ill and proud of it..

they are lost in an Apriori Loop and you can not communicate with them.. wherever information or questions are introduced into the loop they come up with the same conclusion.. which is dictated by the party strategist.. Rove or Himler as the case may be

i am not spoofing or joking, i am serious, i have worked with the mentally ill and these people are sick...and dangerious

I think that, yes, the Republicans are better at politics, but the Democrats are definitely better at governing. It may just b e as simple as our seeing the actual need for a government, and the Republicans don't. I dunno.

I used to think it was because we (read: Democrats) were just more principled and idealistic, but the last several years have opened my eyes to the fact that although that's true, it isn't by much anymore. And, they seem to just WANT the win more than our candidates do. A Democrat will go only so far for a win, lacking the killer instinct of the Republicans.

Also, public perception has been skewed successfully for years. A Democratic candidate goes windsurfing or skiing, and he is a brie-eating, Chardonnay-drinking elitist who would probably look down his nose if you invited him to a BBQ; A Republican shows up at a NASCAR event or goes to his "ranch" to clear brush and he's a chili-eating, beer-drinking good-ole-boy who would fit in at your BBQ. Never mind that the Republican was the man born with that silver spoon in his mouth; Never mind that the Democrtat has wind-surfed and skiied for years and was self-made. The perceptions have been skewed by successful "framing" by the other side.

THAT'S how they are better at politics than we are. Their "framing" of issues and perceptions is exquisitely fine, and their killer instinct is fully engaged at all times. We need to find Democrats who are willing and able to match them frame for frame and when necessary, go for the jugular. Only winners should be nominated and re-elected.

TC

I call it dirty politics, but, hey, maybe it's the way things are done now. So sad.

keeping hold onto POWER POWER POWER!!

and power = authoritarian rule over others, in other words, politics = attainment/retainment of authoritarian rule over others...yes repubs are better as that is their reality, their game; they have home field advantage, if you will. And, they move the goal and change the rules when and as it benefits them.

As progressives, liberals, Democrats, our reality, our game, is (was?) more about distribution of, or sharing power with rather than over, something closer to an egalitarian structure rather than and authoritarian structure.

As the current political system/structure exists, we do not have home field advantage and we're uncomfortable with the rules of the game and we can't keep track of the goal as it's always moving.

As long as our political system is about "winning" at all costs, about attaining/retaining authoritarian power over, as long as repubs define what "winning" is, as long as we continue to embrace our ideals over winning strategies, we will continue to "lose."

As a movement, not just a party, those of us on the left must decide if we want to "win" the political game or if we are in this to improve, make better our world. Why are we in this? What is our goal?

If our goal is to "win" authoritarian power over, then we need to quite slamming ourselves and our representatives for selling off pieces of their souls and ideals in order to acquire votes and appear "mainstream." We have to quit hobbling our representatives with ideological standards that lose votes. We have to quit applying a double standard to "our" reps which weakens their ability to acquire money and power in order to play by "their" rules.

If our goal is to make better, improve our world, then we have to stick with our high ideals and we have to change the political system and the "accepted norms" which are anti-survival and antithetical to sharing power with. We have to provide "the people," on both ends of the "political" spectrum, with the knowledge and education that there are options, that there are other ways in which to exercise power and that there are other forms of power than authoritarian power over.

that's the difference right there -

it's not about being better at politics

it's about control of information

A homogenous cult of compulsive, emotionally motivated, rationally handicapped abusers who all believe "might makes right" and that they're all "holier than thou". Still, being of one mind, even if that mind is disordered, increases their effectiveness.

Many unpleasant words describe them. Today's word is: "Offensive", since they are offensive in everything they do and how they do it (offensive intolerant, hate-filled people, constantly on the political offensive, regularly offend against traditional American values, the Constitution, fair play, the truth, and they take offense at any disagreement or with anyone who doesn't think as they think). As "Offenders" against all that is good and right, they should all be taken away to special "deprogramming" camps where they might be treated for their Personality Disorder/s.

There you have it. The "Genuinely Offensive Party"... Welcome to the Grandly Offensive Party (G.O.P.) composed of Generally Offensive People (G.O.P. Members), who are always Genuinely Offended Perpetrators of Great Offenses Personally, because of their Grossly Offensive Politics or because they're engaged in God's Offensive Plan (Gentile Offender's Program?).

Only that they have been shrewdly unscrupulous.