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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 05:25 PM
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Senate Democrats want vote on Iraq withdrawal
Democrats plan to offer a resolution in the U.S. Senate on Tuesday seeking a timetable for a phased withdrawal from Iraq, California Sen. Dianne Feinstein said on Sunday.

Recent polls show a slight majority of Americans favor such a course but White House spokesman Tony Snow said President George W. Bush would not consider it.

Setting a timetable "would be an absolute, unmitigated disaster, not merely for the people of Iraq, but the larger war on terror," Snow said on CNN's "Late Edition."

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"Three years and three months and a bogging down, I think, suggests that the time has come for some discussion on where we go from here," Feinstein said, also interviewed on CNN.
"I don't know why we are so afraid to stand up and say, 'look, we want to see an end to this thing'," she said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060618/pl_nm/iraq_congress_usa_dc
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 05:28 PM
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1. Praise the Lord and pass the resolution
(when a Dem Congress is sworn in).
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 05:28 PM
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2. Setting a timetable "would be an absolute, unmitigated disaster FOR THE
CHICKENHAWKS who lied us into bush's war.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 05:30 PM
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3. Wow... the Dem Senate's turning the tables on the Cons...
Sweet.

NGU.


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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 05:35 PM
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4. So which Democrats will vote against this or not vote at all?
Clinton, Lieberman? Who else?


John
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 06:20 PM
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5. SAVVY ANSWER: strategic redeployment immediately upon Iraq's
position of responsibility for its own nation and it's own citizens.

"Cut and Run" is a lot of chicken hawk talk from a bunch of politicians who never saw a single day's service in actual combat.

Those in the Democratic Party, particularly those of us who have served our nation in combat, know there is a smarter way to effectively deploy our troops. If elected, we will hasten this redeployment with all deliberate speed.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 07:00 PM
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6. I guess this is good news - Democrats asking Bush for a withdrawal plan.
However, dont forget that no date will be put in the resolution (may be in 10 years:sarcasm:, so that the dems can all be united.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 07:31 PM
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7. This is good news.
It's progress, anyway. Feinstein will calm the center, and dems will be associated with a way out. It's a start.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 08:27 PM
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8. I'd also like a resolution stating we will have no permanent bases there.
Edited on Sun Jun-18-06 08:33 PM by Clarkie1
Bush might be sure to turn down the timetable request, but it would be even more damaging for him politically to turn down a no permanent bases in Iraq resolution.

Edit:

No Permanent Bases: Passed Both Houses, Removed in Conference Committee
Submitted by davidswanson on Fri, 2006-06-09 05:20. Congress
By David Swanson

When the House and the Senate pass similar but not identical bills, they create a conference committee to work out the differences. When they both passed amendments to the "emergency supplemental" spending bill stipulating that none of the money could be used to build permanent bases in Iraq, the conference committee, behind closed doors this week, resolved that non-difference by deleting it.

This would appear to be a blatant violation of the rules of Congress and an unconstitutional voiding of the will of the people as expressed by their Representatives and Senators. But it can't appear that way to a people that knows nothing about it. And it does not appear that way at all to the journalists who inform the public of its government's doings. Even the minority members of the conference committee and the leaders of the minority party in Congress seem entirely comfortable with this course of events, although Congresswoman Barbara Lee has denounced the Republicans for it.

The House was the first to pass the "no permanent bases" amendment, back in March. Only one media outlet in the nation reported on the matter, the San Francisco Chronicle, which wrote:

"Lee's amendment, which would bar the use of any funds in the new spending bill to establish permanent bases, passed on a voice vote, with no one speaking in opposition. President Bush and some top administration officials have said the U.S. military has no interest in permanent bases, the prospect of which is among the causes of anti-American unrest in Iraq. Leaders of the Republican majority also may have chosen to avoid a debate and recorded vote on Lee's proposal because they didn't want to go on record endorsing a permanent military presence in Iraq when polls show Americans oppose the war. Opponents also may try to strike the amendment when leaders of the House and Senate reconcile their bill for final passage. 'In adopting this amendment, we can take the target off our troops' backs by sending a strong and immediate signal to the Iraqi people, the insurgents and the international community that the United States has no designs on Iraq,' Lee said on the House floor."

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/11672
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-18-06 10:02 PM
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9. Recommended, I like this idea.
Good tactics.
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