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BobcatJH Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 11:31 AM
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The Ann Coulter of electoral politics
It didn't take long after Karl Rove slithered his way out of indictment to return to form. The same day, in fact. Not long after we learned that the walking national security threat was seemingly in the clear, the indictment-free Rove wasted little time resuming the politics of fear, smear, division and distraction.

Speaking in New Hampshire, Rove slandered John Kerry and Jack Murtha, two veterans who are now calling for exit strategy for the quagmire in Iraq. "Like too many Democrats it strikes me they are ready to give the green light to go to war," he said, "but when it gets tough, they fall back of that party's old platform of cutting and running. They may be with you for the first few bullets but they won't be there for the last tough battles."

And with those shameful words, a man who had himself avoided combat not only insulted those who had fought, but also those who actually support the troops, those asking for a sound strategy and endgame for the war being waged by an incompetent administration. The Ann Coulter of electoral politics had returned.

While Coulter lacks the know-how to engage in an actual debate on any issue, she actually has a partner-in-crime with Rove, her counterpart in electoral politics. Both, through recent statements, have attempted to deliver a subtle message behind their over-the-top rhetoric: Experience means nothing. Consider what Coulter was saying. By smearing the September 11 widows and the so-called "doctrine of liberal infallibility", she was not only avoiding debate on the merits of the argument, but also sending a message that having direct experience with an issue is somehow wrong.

Rove did the same thing last week. Think about it, had Kerry or Murtha stood by the president and the war, they would no doubt be touted by the Roves of the world as those who had been there and were now urging America to stay the course. But they aren't urging America to stay the course, because there is no course. Instead, they're simply asking for competence where incompetence has so far reigned. So, for speaking out, their experience serving America and on military issues has no value. Only a Coulter Republican would appreciate such an illogical twist.

But, then again, Coulter Republicans appreciate statements like Rove's. Not only because they care more for bumper sticker politics than nuance, but also because they've long harbored a dislike and distrust for intelligence and experience of any kind. They're the people who appreciate reality television. They're the people who appreciate watered-down art. They're the people the Michael Smerconishes of the world worship at the alter of "Middle America".

I've long held an opinion about a sizeable portion of Bush supporters. I think that, at the end of the day, they're little more than complete screwups. They've screwed up everything they've touched. They see the president, also a complete screwup, and just love how, no matter what happens, he gets out of the mess. Like a bad '80s movie protagonist, President Bush manages, more often than not, to embarrass the Dean, score the game-winning touchdown and get the girl. These people know that if they did half of what the president has gotten away with, they'd either be dead or in jail. But one screwup managed to fool 'em all. And they root for that screwup. They identify with that screwup. They are that screwup.

Rove and Coulter both know this mindset. And both have managed to exploit it for political and personal gain. Coulter tries to convince you that politics is a game and those who take it seriously don't belong. Rove tries to convince you that people with meaningful experience don't matter. While Coulter's rhetoric is, in its way, dangerous, Rove's has far more potential for harm. Why? Because look at what has happened when this administration has ignored advice from intelligent, experienced sources. Iraq. Hurricane Katrina. The Dubai ports deal. And there are myriad more examples where those came from. Rove would rather leave the government in the hands of the gang who couldn't shoot straight - literally - than the gang who knew what the hell they were doing.

Sure, Rove's speech was intended, in part, to achieve a short-term victory at the ballot box this fall. Knowing, however, that the polls aren't and haven't been with him for quite some time, Rove was also interested last week in further marginalizing the importance of intelligence and experience in our society. And who could blame him, considering the side he represents offers little by way of intelligence and experience? And for that, Rove is Coulter's counterpart in electoral politics. Long on talk, short on walk. Or, in parlance that should be familiar to the president, all hat, no cattle.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 11:33 AM
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1. Outstanding comparison!
Those two can go hate for hate and abomination for abomination... true soulmates!

TC
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 02:52 PM
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2. I believe they were separated at birth...
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 03:28 PM
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3. Check out this asshole!
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 03:49 PM by SIMPLYB1980
So I'm on you-tube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkryhxuvtWc#YX-ZScdhlTA and I see this asshole hsimpson spouting more right wing talking points about Ann Colter than you can shake a stick at. Usually I try to keep my flame wars to myself, but I could really use some backup. I guess this guy doesn't have a job because he is filling up the message board with so much shit that I can't possibly respond to all of it. You-tube is a new political battleground and any help would be appreciated.


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Here too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF0pGowq5HM&mode=related&search= damn this guy is a ass hole!
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bluescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 05:58 PM
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4. George W. Bush
The Inspector Clousseau of American Politics.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 06:30 PM
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5. Experience DOESN'T matter.........
to the Reich-Wing ideologues. They've proved that time and again with the candidates they put forward. Reagan......Bush (1&2).......they chose form over substance every time. Why, you may ask? :shrug: So the captains of industry can FORM them into any SUBSTANCE they like! They don't want a man or woman of substance and integrity, with a mind of his/her own. They want a cardboard cut-out to put in place while THEY make the REAL decisions that determine the course of our country. They've certainly found that cut-out in the idiot bastard son, george bush. A failure at everything in life, it was HE they chose to lead :rofl: this country at this particular time. They needed war, war to oil the military industrial complex's gears made of money. georgie fit the bill. Reagan was another joke.....a confused, addled minded, B actor who complied with the MIC's wishes as well. Nothing but image......all of them, not an IOTA of substance in the whole bunch! :grr: That's what they SELL to the American people and the American people, who LOVE to be SOLD to (lied to, like a used car salesman lies) and that's what they get for being so shallow and consumer oriented. They sell the sizzle, not the steak and the American people (aided by the Republican's friend in crime, Diebold) BUY IT! IDIOTS!
I've about had it with "middle America". If they're so stupid that they can't figure out that they're being sold a pig in a poke every four years then they deserve the crap they get with these assholes in the White House. The problem is, the rest of SANE America has to suffer along with their idiotic choices and it's SICKENING! :puke:

I'm SOOOO close to fleeing this moronic country I live in............ :rant:
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-20-06 07:19 PM
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6. I think it's time to make...
Edited on Tue Jun-20-06 07:21 PM by iamahaingttta
...Karl Rove and Ann Coulter personally responsible for the shit that this country is in. Seriously! We need to find every excuse to hound them, to sue them, to lein them, to publicly humiliate them so that they each have a public crackup. So that they leave the country. So that they finally succumb to that secret illness. Pick these two to hound above all others just to prove that it can be done. Make them responsible!

Without the violence that they would do upon each of us...
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 10:42 AM
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7. Technically, that's not slander
Rove is stating an opinion and using metaphor. Smear might be a better word.
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