girl featured in smirk 2000 ad molested by ad maker

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Alleged victim testifies in sexual assault trial


A young girl featured in a controversial television ad during the 2000 presidential campaign testified this week that the man who developed the commercial molested her for years and forced her to watch pornography and use sex toys.

The girl, now 15, told jurors Carey Lee Cramer — a 44-year-old political consultant who gained national notoriety when he released an anti-Al Gore ad showing a young girl picking daisy petals and ending in a nuclear blast — began molesting her in the third grade, when she lived in Mercedes with him, his then-wife and her younger brother.

The ad in which she and another girl were featured was a remake of one Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson’s campaign used against Republican Barry Goldwater in 1964.

The girl took the stand Thursday in Cramer’s aggravated child sexual assault trial, which began June 7 in Hidalgo County before Visiting Judge Homer Salinas’ Auxiliary Court A. She continued testifying Friday.

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The ad for which Cramer gained national attention was produced to accuse the Clinton-Gore Administration of giving nuclear technology to China in return for campaign contributions. At the time, he refused to identify who financed the commercial.
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for they so love the children

at least the adults are in charge, now :sarcasm:

are also perverts. If it were a disease, it would be a syndrome.

Asperger's Syndrome:

poor ability to communicate, abnormal speech, lack of empathy and imagination, repetitive activities

I think that pretty much sums up all of the hardcore NeoCons.

A much too high number of NeoCons suffer from "try to hide your perversion by acting holier-than-thou in public and working to control everyone else's sex life while using your position to abuse others" syndrome.

There are actually quite a few good DU members with Asperger's. I believe there is even a DU group for it. If I understand it correctly, it tends to make one awkward and shy, but certainly not a NeoCon and/or a sexual predator!

without some evidence.

I think the spate of republican sex-criminals can be attributed to their overblown egos, their need for power and control, and their belief that the world owes them whatever they can take. All of that can be explained without resorting to Aspergers.

But I honestly do wonder if there is some hormonal imbalance in the NeoCon brain that reduce the ability to feel empathy toward people and animals.

with some sort of narcissist syndrome.

Asperger's don't have that maliciousness, the desire to actually hurt someone who disagrees with them.

That's what makes Neocons so dangerous.

Most people with Asperger's are more decent than others, not less--because falsehood is not easy for them, impossible for some in fact. I often babysit a 10-year-old with Asperger's (I have taken care of him since he was eight) and a good friend of mine also has Asperger's, as does an online friend of mine. They are wonderful people, and often unusually smart. People with Asperger's also often have an unusually highly developed moral sense.

The main problem you might have with them is that they will lecture you for hours on whatever odd interest has captured their attention, and you will not be able to get them to change subjects. That's why they often become research scientists or college professors.

They also have trouble sometimes understanding the emotional reactions of others. But they are very aware of and concerned about justice.

These Republicans are sociopaths; they do not have Asperger's. I have noticed that many frequent, long-time posters here at DU have Asperger's. I am surprised you would smear people with Asperger's like this.

Asperger's Syndrome I'm both offended and horrified that you would think that someone with AS would be a child molester.

The qualities you listed: poor ability to communicate, abnormal speech, lack of empathy and imagination, and repetitive activities are correct insofar as they are characteristic of Asperger's, but such people do not go out and molest children. Indeed, their very inability to communicate means they would be lacking in the verbal skills to do what was done to that unfortunate young woman.

They have a great deal of difficulty reading others' body language. They do not pick up on non verbal cues, and often misunderstand verbal ones. As a consequence they have difficulty making and maintaining friendships, often have difficulty getting or keeping jobs, and are all too often socially isolated. But they don't go out and work for the Republican party and molest young girls.

Please consider an apology and a correction to your post.

my next post was an apology. i can't edit the original post anymore.

I honestly did not mean to offend.

I must say I really dislike the extremely limited edit time, since I've occasionally posted some sort of misinformation that remains in the original post, even after I've been called on it.

But yeah, a lot of conservatives and people who call themselves "family values" types do behave in a way that's completely opposite of what they claim to believe. However, I don't think it rises to the level of any sort of syndrome as we normally understand the word. I think it's a relatively simple psychology of projecting on others that which they most fear in themselves. People do it all the time, in all sorts of circumstances, about all sorts of things.

Right now I'm reading the Mark Crispin Miller book Fooled Again and he discusses that sort of thing at great length.

Aspies may communicate poorly, and may not be smooth speakers, and may have difficulty in moderating their speech to meet social norms (which can be interpreted as lacking empathy) but I've never met any that truely lack empathy and they have terrific imaginations -- those I've met love SF and horror, as well as video games and fantasy gaming. They have difficulty fitting into society; they have no interest in re-shaping society to their interests.

They are a world away from the neo-cons.

People with Asperger's Syndrome are usually quiet, hard-working scholars or technicians. Not politicians. There's no correlation between Asperger's Syndrome and immoral behavior - in fact, I'd guess that Asperger's Syndrome folks are less likely to behave immorally than the average person.

That's a very unfair statement you made.

Some of them are quite capable of things this administration could never dream of...

I think HEARTLESSNESS in combination with any syndrome causes RETHUGLICANISM.

in the Catholic church must also be happening in the rignt-wing churches. I don't know what it's going to take to get the victims to come out. With Catholics, it helped that they got "Americanized." But the baptist and the fundamentalist seem so insularly tight in this country, that I doubt that they will be that easy to crack.

Disgusting

that isn't in someway tainted, corrupt, unethical, twisted, sick or rotten?

Real elephants are rather noble creatures, not tainted, corrupt or even unethical.

an intelligent, social, caring critter if there ever was one.

and leaves a wake of destruction and mounds of fecal waste. I think the elephant is a great mascot for the GOP.

On the other hand I'm also thrilled that our mascot is the donkey: stubborn, tend to kick the opposition, and raise hell when we have to. That and we really are a bunch of jackasses in the spirit of Andrew Jackson. The party of the people shall rise again and be a national party once more.

...commune in a matriachal society and have a high degree of intelligence. They are everything that Repooblicans are not. A more apt symbol for the Poobs would be the hyena, a disruptive and chaotic beast that rewards only itself.

that just spreads and takes from people and doesn't give anything back. :shrugs:

I've had personal experience with Indian elephants in India and they're nice I suppose. But Donkeys are just as stubborn as some of our Democrats.

Republicans should have a non-animal mascot, like a clown or the Monopoly mascot guy.

Why so many sexually perverse incidents on that side? It's just horrifying. The Party of Family Values -- Ugh. And, the Values Voters keep voting for them! I do not understand this at all. I just don't.

TC

GOP = Grand Old Perverts or Gay Orgy Party

Family Values my arse. If they took the sheets off the heads of many bush supporters who profess how much they're concerned about children and good ole fashion morals, we might get a real fright at what we see....

I hope this girl finds justice in court. And he is never allowed to harm children again.

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that they have a supressed ability to produce oxytocin, the hormone which establishes trust, empathy, and relationship bonds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin

Lets hope she gets some therapy and relief.

And he gets some time behind bars.

n/t

Are any elected DEMS talking about this?

I'm really glad this young girl came out and faced him. She'll have a lot of healing to go through, but the first step is to face that it happened and that it's not her fault. May she find the healing peace she needs to have a good life.

And to that rat bastard child molester, may he rot in hell with thousands of prison days in between.
:mad:

Sonia

I hope she has a good support system. If they guy is powerful or has powerful allies, the situation could get even uglier. What a brave little girl to be able to tell the truth about the situation.

Yes at fifteen she is a child to be used in this manner is just sick. I hope he pays justly for his crime.

This happened in 2000, when she was about nine years old. Truly just a child. Truly a perversion of the basest kind. I hope there's a hell.

he started showing her porn and touching. It escalated over time and went on for years. It also notes she denied it once because he threatened to not let her see her family if she told. It says another teen also testified that he touched her.

What puzzles me is why this girl was living with him...it sounds like she was related, but not his daughter or step-daughter. At least I couldn't tell from the article.
If some relative entrusted her to him...imagine how horrid they feel too.

What a shame she went through this. Brave girl to face him in court and testify despite (of course) being accused of lying.

He could have been gay!

and i see:
"She said Cramer continued to molest her after they moved from Mercedes to McAllen and Tucson, Ariz., until she finally reported the abuse in 2004."

i guess i just remember when the story broke that she had reported this. it's taken this long to get to court?

damn! glad there's no urgency about getting a child molester off the streets.

hey--sounds like dupage county illinois! (thank you joe birkett--republican--for not letting/wanting to press charges against a man who had repeatedly been raping his children for years! now that you're running for lt. governor you're secret is safe with me.....)

"damn! glad there's no urgency about getting a child molester off the streets." Apparently there's no rush.

side note: did you hear the recent story of the judge who decided to give a convicted pedophile probation instead of jail time because he was too short? I have the link to it and will look it up and post if you want, but I just couldn't believe it. I believe he is 5'2" and the judge felt he was too short to defend himself in prison and he might be abused. Oh really? And is she going to give probation to all criminals in prison who are 5'2" for the same reason. I'm sure the victim and her family are soooo glad to hear that news along with other parents in the area. And where the hell was this judge's priorities?

who is a foster parent for the kids i was talking about--her and i were practically screaming about that "little" bit of news!

And as you know, he was also put on surveillance...ya, that really helps. I already know it's not foolproof and there are ways they can find around it. A local pedophile was convicted of raping a girl repeatedly over a period of time. He's also a relative of a well known and respected police officer. He was allowed to return home for his sentencing - no prison time - and was put on surveillance. He found a clever way around being monitored and raped the same girl again. Only this time they finally put him in prison...at the expense of this poor girl.

Let's hope that if Cramer is convicted, that he doesn't get options like these regardless of his height or who he knows in the GOP.

I suppose I shouldn't be shocked, but still...that poor child.

Ah, the GOP - the party of hypocrites and child molesters.

:grr:

Good to see family values in action!
Our proud nation needs more good, wholesome, god-fearing citizens like him!