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SeaNap05 Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:33 PM
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Emergence of a front-runner candidate for 2008


Until a true front-runner candidate can emerge as potential Democratic nominee for 2008, Hillary Clinton will have the most focus leading toward the primaries. It is early, but it looks as Hillary’s presence has brought early attention to the possible nominee. It seems that every presidential election cycle brings attention earlier each cycle; however, the focus is on Hillary, regardless of her re-election campaign for Senator of New York. Kerry seem to be making a run virtually in the well of the senate, and Gore’s latest advocacy for environmental issues has given him some attention. Edward’s message seems to be muted by the others, and Clark makes his rounds on cable news. The attention Hillary gardeners may perhaps reduce the other potential candidates messages.

There are many DU supporters of Hillary; however, others do not support her. This media focus and razzle-dazzle of her candidacy may ruin the nomination. The focus she is getting will diminish the strength for a solid nomination that can take on a Republican challenger. The primaries are in 18 months. It is pre-mature to say its Hillary vs. the GOP. We need to think about winning this one people.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:50 PM
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1. Sen. Clinton
Were you watching her speech today? If you were you would have seen a sincere knowledgeable speech. This is not to say I would support her for Pres. I think it's way too early to worry about the 08 election, since if we do not win in Nov. then our chances in 08 will be slim.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 08:57 PM
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2. It is vastly too early to be thinking
about a front runner or who our candidate should be. Who knows what will happen between now and spring of 2008, which is when we should be selecting the nominee. If we start thinking that we need to know two years ahead of time to make sure we can win, we'll completely miss the boat.

Besides, imagine a Hillary v. McCain race. Who do you honestly think would win that one? Even in a free, fair, and honest election.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:08 PM
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3. McCain
Edited on Wed Jun-21-06 09:09 PM by spag68
Honestly I don't think McCain will be their nominee as he has been shooting himself in the foot lately. None of the NE repubs. have much of a chance. so we shouldn't worry too much about that yet either. The only thing I fear is if somehow Georgy is their candidate in 08.
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:41 AM
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6. What do you mean Georgy will be
the candidate? He can't run again, remember. And trust me, there's no way they'd be able to railroad through a constitutional amendment undoing the no more than two terms one they got after Roosevelt. And, has been occasionally proposed here, they'd suddenly step forward and admit that Bush didn't really win in 00 is beyond silly, especially since the amendment in question speaks of time served in office.


Don't dismiss McCain too quickly. He's the best they have, and worse yet, a lot of Democrats mistakenly think he's a liberal at heart, and somehow don't notice his complete opposition to a woman's right to choose, for instance. Again, can you imagine him up against Hillary? I shudder. Whatever you personally think of Hillary as a person or candidate or potential president, just imagine the campaign. To me the real scary thing about this is that I can see the Democratic Party in its weird, quixotic way, somehow coming together behind a Hillary candidacy once McCain is the obvious front runner.

And for all of you who read this who despise Hillary (and I myself am completely against her) remember 04. All it takes is enough wins in the primary season for every other contender to drop out, and the front runner to be anointed well before getting whatever the magic number of delegates to win. And again, don't fantasize a locked convention going to several votes and therefore your personal favorite finally making it through to the nomination. Ain't gonna happen.

What I wish people would do at this point is concentrate very hard on this November, work as hard as possible for Democratic candidates at all levels, and wait a full year before doing more than look over the people who will start putting themselves forward as candidates. Don't make your mind up too early. Wait and see for as long as possible what's happening in the country and the world, and how our current administration continues to behave, continues to posture around the world.

What we want most of all is a clear message and a clear choice between the evil that they have done, and the hope, healing, and reconciliation we could offer.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:15 PM
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4. Hillary is the Democrats' Hindenburg dirigible
She will crash and burn for she is just full of gas!

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-21-06 09:17 PM
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5. The 2008 Election will come down to this:
George W. Bush: Yes
George W. Bush: No

That's what the ballot will look like.

Our Democracy is over.

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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 11:58 AM
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7. Keep an eye on this site:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 06:17 PM
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9. thanks for the link
They give tidbits of very interesting data on Washington Journal.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:28 PM
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11. It's a great site...I think leans RW, but
Edited on Fri Jun-23-06 07:30 PM by Catchawave
in a moderate sorta way :evilgrin:

Actually, it's just as hard on the 'puggies. Can't believe Allen is rated so high, but mentioned Webb as a future factor.

edit: red wine and spelling
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:49 PM
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13. That's a good site
Also make sure to read Chuck Todd's column. He identifies the key voting blocks as well as anyone. This time he mentions the casual swing voters who will likely vote Democratic IF they vote. We need to give them a reason to vote.

I like that list although I think Warner should be ahead of Edwards. That's where the betting lines have it right now.

Evan Bayh is way too high in third.

I'll be shocked if our nominee doesn't emerge from the top three -- Hillary, Edwards, Warner. Unless Gore enters, those three seem a clear notch above everyone else, in terms of potential to actually win the nomination.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 12:09 PM
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8. A true frontrunner won't emerge until the polls say MY candidate is...
...the frontrunner. LOL!
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 06:41 PM
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10. Post many anti-Hilary posts at DU, sailor?
"The attention Hillary gardeners" Learn what the words you post mean.

It's Senator Clinton to you.

Is this a Netvocates summary for the RNC? Sure sounds like it.
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-23-06 07:33 PM
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12. Lemmee see..
Hit and run

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