He already beat W and the republicans once. If it hadn't been for crooked Florida politics, he would be our president, and controlled the mess we're in.

He has dignity, intellect, and class. I can't think of a single republican with anything close to these qualifications.

He would be the dream candidate.

If only he could face another wingnut firing sqaud.

He could do it, all right. It's just a matter of his wanting to.

He couldn't beat the stupidest man ever to run for the office. He doesn't stand a chance against a real a candidate.

Gore won the popular vote also.

Besides, Gore conceded. Concession means that regardless of what happened, you acknowledge that the other contestant is the winner.

poster's assertion that Gore would not be a good candidate.

I disagreed.

by some miracle or slight of hand. But I believe a point to be considered, and possibly what the earlier poster was saying, is with Gore as our candidate "we" didn't win. Gore didn't lose, we lost. It isn't enough to have a great candidate, GWB is the best example. There are a lot of other factors that the Republicans did right and we did wrong. I am not proposing we give up our principles and become them, but we must not just rely on finding a good candidate. It is a fact that they are going to drag democrats thru the mud. We need a strategy to fight that starting now.

in those close House races & I'm with you also on an 08 strategy.

We could afford to hit a lot harder when the Rethugs smear our people.

Rove wants cut and run vs. lie and die, which is probably not a winner for Repubs, but all Karl has in the playbook.

Here's how I would frame it:

Faux tough and dumb vs. tough and smart.

Actually, I'm not real happy with "faux tough," but that's the general idea.

Here's how I would explain it.

1. Afghanistan is about a real terror threat. The Taliban is on the rise there. We need to beef up *coalition* forces there (after acknowledging we alienated allies like the French and Italians) and get a real plan of nation-building in that incredibly poor country, which has no current options to opium farming. We need to drain the swamp once and for all.

2. Iraq never had anything to do with terrorism. Iraq was a mistake and now there are no good solutions. We need to stand down there as quickly as possible.

3. We need to reach out to our traditional allies in a way we haven't in six years. Let's re-join the community of nations.

4. We need to reach out to the muslim world. We need a serious educational initiative in countries like Saudia Arabia and Pakistan. More than half the muslim world is under 15 years old. We need an enlightened alternative to madrassahs, so that young muslim boys are not educated to hate America anymore.

With majority votes. The American people wanted Gore not Bush. Where are you coming from?

Gore indeed won....


Many newspapers and other media paid for the counting of all votes - Gore won.


See: http://www.consortiumnews.com/2001/111201a.html

Gore won. Bushco staged a bloodless coup in front of your face.

Not even W discounts that.

If Gore had "blown it", he would have lost by at least 20 points, rather than winning 1/2 million more votes that Smirk nationally (plus, of course, winning the electoral college).

If Gore had "really blown it", he would have lost by more than 20 points.

Smirk is the one who blew a landslide victory in 2000.

Funny the effect "Gore" has on some. The nastiness always reveals the fear underneath.

Go ahead though and keep creating enemies by acting this way friend. Then act as an advocate for your horse in the race and by shocked, shocked I say, when you are just as warmly received.

Marvelling at the MO of some supposed fellow Dems.

Julie

for all the world to see lost to village idiot? Go figure:shrug:

Gore is a good guy, but he simply doesn't have the appeal to the majority of the voters. Let him alone and find a new candidate!

My take is that he definitely does want to jump in, and definitely will.

A lot of party Democratics who've worked the trenches for years will coalesce behind a Gore candidacy.

He simply can't be written off. Erika's enthusiasm for a Gore candidacy is very understandable. If Gore's our nominee, and he may very well be, he has my vote, too.

Where are you coming from? Remember the popular vote?

With proper voting machines, Gore can seal it this time. He's got class, intellect,and the citizens concerns. Go Gore!

a debate.

They'd have to carry THE CAT BUTCHER off the stage in a wheelbarrow.

Our Country and Constitution would not have changed so much under a Gore Presidency post 9/11. He would have kept us closer to the founding Fathers ideal. Not the neocon dlc nwo 'agenda dream cum true' we live under now.

Show some respect for his choice.

That has to be the main focus.

ajar so he can make a decision later if he wishes to.

All you have to do is read his "no plans at this time" denials and you will see an open, unlocked door.

"The focus" does not have to be global warming. I would like it to be A major issue, not the ONLY discussable issue. Gore's environmental expertise is long-standing. Many environmentalists who were drawn to the Green candidate in 2000 acknowledged Gore's expertise and dedication to the environment.

Your positions appear to claim that Gore can't be an adept in this issue if he seeks public office, or that somehow his holding public office diminishes his expertise or dedication.

In significant part, that's what public office is for. Presidents' legislative initiatives highlight, not diminish, tenets of platforms on which they are elected.

Shermanesque statements declaring he will not enter the 08 race.

If you cruise the liberal blogs you'll find enormous support for Al Gore, and for an Al Gore candidacy.

That's how it is in a constitutional republic. Voters get enthusiastic about their favorite candidates.

And in this instance that candidate is well-qualified.

Instead of yapping about him running, if people really respected and wanted to help him they'd be yapping more about his global warming efforts and trying to help with that.

in the immediate, right-now future.

Whether Gore or Kerry or Edwards or Warner or Kucinich or anyone you want to fill in that blank, becomes the U.S. president, all leaders must confront the realities global warming threatens them with.

Gore as private citizen holds the issue dear. Agreed. He would not let it slide as president.

It is entirely possible that Al Gore knows that this is the issue of the century and he is the one on the horse, like Paul Revere, to warn the villagers of the impending crisis.

There's nothing at all in Gore's dedication to environmental issues that precludes a run for the White House.

would elicit howls of cynical claims he was only setting himself up for a run with this movie.

overwhelmingly possible.

His books sold out tonight in a Nashville, TN book-signing appearance.

The man is positioned to be the next president if he wishes to be, not in spite of his film but because of it.

What have the Republicans produced of equal merit? Why shouldn't Democrats ride issues of global import into positions of power? I would hope more did the same.

but because of it.

He knows picking up a run for President will diminish the film.

investment in environmental protections.

The people paying money for tickets to see that film are more enthusiastic about a Gore presidency after the film than before it.

A U.S. president has a huge pulpit from which to advance his agenda, including an environmental agenda.

You may be underestimating Al Gore's range.

about saving our asses from global warming after.

Gore has said he is not planning a run, that he wants to focus on global warming.

If he's not planning it by now, it ain't happening.

Look at the media today: "Gore not planning run at the Presidency".

All the folks who are interested to know if he'll run for President are missing the point, that being global warming and the danger we are in.

if they didn't already have some affinity for his position on global warming.

I think you're missing the red side of a green barn, and that you aren't even on the right property, Harper-is-Bush.

Why do you say downthread that you "hope to God" Gore doesn't run?

Is it personal? You don't like the man?

Is it ok if others do like him? If others do respect him?

Jesus. I was a Bill Bradley delegate and I respect Gore and will vote for him enthusiastically if he is our nominee.

I don't see your point and feel you have no basis for objection to a Gore candidacy.

which would likely be summer 2007 or later, IMO. The public will have already completed its reaction to the movie.

that would be unheard of.

Already the planning would need to be underway in the primary States.

He's not running. Time to forget that and concentrate on what's important now - fighting global warming.

Unlike any other candidate except Kerry, he has already won and run in Iowa.

He has also made some organizational moves which would serve him well if he decides to run. Most notably, Gore has recently re-hired Roy Neel, his chief of staff when he was in Congress and in the White House, as well as other key staffers, ostensibly only to work on his climate change educational initiative. In other words, Al has gotten the band back together.

JFK didn’t enter the race until January, 1960 and was elected less than 10 months later. Also, you are ignoring the possibility of a draft for the nomination. This has occurred twice in the modern era: Eisenhower in 1952 and Barry Goldwater in 1964. There are all kinds of people talking about and acting to draft Gore in 2008.

My bottom line: Gore is the best candidate and the only one I want. I grant that he says he has no current plans to run. But if the people continue to respond to him as they are and he think he can win, I believe he will run and lead us in this fight to save civilization.
My belief is that the best way to fight global warming is to elect Gore. If we don’t, our risk of disaster is higher.

BTW, are you backing another candidate?

presidential race of 1960. The subsequent months of planning and tactical strategy represent one of, if not the very most, brilliant political organizational efforts in U.S. history.

With the Democratic field for 08 very crowded and very talented both, a pile of candidates could arrive at the convention with significant but not first ballot support.

A Gore draft is a distinct possibility.

called "Suite 2306," I believe. It tells the story of how Goldwater was drafted in 1964.

They started with mid-to-upper GOP party people in each state and eventually got Goldwater to run. He was resistant to it and even threated to issue a Shermanesque statement at one point, but eventually they persuaded him to run. Eisenhower was also drafted in 1952 by a groundswell of popular sentiment.

I think the most likely mechanism is a 21st century politics, Net-driven grassroots campaign which will persuade Gore he has the base to win and inoculate him from the old 2000 MSM characterization as stiff and uncharismatic. Actually, he is the most charismatic figure in America today, straight up, but the press will have to be dragged unwillingly to that conclusion.

Do you have a problem with that?

He said it again on Letterman, he's not planning a run. I believe he is doing an important job right now for the country and the health of the earth. When 07 rolls around there will be time to reconsider, in the meanwhile listen to what he says and trust his judgment.

for his plans in 2008. I think he is doing so in his own way.

I Hope to God Your Are Wrong

saving OUR country??? Hardly.
on edit: Yes, saving the world is more important than saving the USA, however, he has gotten the ball rolling in the latter in a huge way......and, as president, could do even more.

He's one heck of an American. A vietnam vet, a U.S. Senator, A Vice President. Plus a man who is dedicated to his family and our environment.

Republicans can't even spell environment, much less be concerned about it.

.

I'll say it again:

Gore Did Not Slam The Door.

...and I don't see anyone mentioning the terrific slap in the face to
Bushco by having the Congress's own hand-picked scientific panel
say that the results are in and global warming is OFF the debate
table. :toast:

Earth Hottest It's Been in 2,000 Years
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/22/AR2006062201461.html


Study Confirms Past Few Decades Warmest on Record
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/22/AR2006062200700.html

Gore in 08!

...I heard Mike Malloy state that he would like to see Gore as the next candidate...that he would gladly vote for him. He felt that Gore had the experience, etc. etc. I, for one, would have no problem voting for him...for the same reasons.

-Paige

is the KEY!
I think that Gore was embarassed that he did not carry him home state in 2000 especially since that state did go for Clinton/Gore twice.
If he had won Tennessee, Florida would not have mattered and Gore would have won the electoral college.
The only way that Gore runs this time is if he thinks his popularity has increased in Tennessee and that he would carry his home state the second time around.

of a U.S. Senate seat.

Bill Frist, THE CAT BUTCHER, is stepping down to run for another job.

It's looking pretty reasonable for Democrats in Tennessee. No cakewalk, but more favorable than in 2000 or 2004. Bush's failures in Iraq and with Social Security and prescription drugs have resonance. Maybe there can be a strong blue vote in the Volunteer State in 06 and 08.

The mechanisms of govt are one big hunk o mess due to the years of decay ala bushjr. One of Gore's "jobs" as vp was to study the agencies (in efforts to find costsavings via duplications of services, to find areas to streamline, areas to cut out, etc.) - AND he is a policy geek. We can not afford the time lag period of folks with no exec. branch experience 'learning the ropes'.

Gore has the knowledge, experience, and can pull competent teams together to take charge and begin to quickly change course within the Executive Branch.

Wouldn't have even been a factor in my figuring a couple of years ago - but things are so very, very, very messed up on every front. Competence, vision, and a belief that the govt CAN work for the people (rather than "ON the people") is needed desperately.