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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:06 AM
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Poll question: Md Gov Ehrlich (R) selects blind woman as running mate - pandering or not?
Gov. Robert Ehrlich picked Kristen Cox, the Department of Disabilities' secretary, as his running mate on Thursday, less than 24 hours after the Republican leader officially declared his intentions to seek a second term.

Although Cox, 36 and legally blind, is expected to sway some of the female and independent voters in Maryland, Baltimore business leaders said she will do little to affect Ehrlich's overall chances for re-election.


Donald C. Fry, CEO of the Greater Baltimore Committee, said, "At this stage, she is unknown. What's going to be important is how she handles herself when she's tested in the arena. People really don't make their decision based on the No. 2.''

Carol Hirschburg, a local consultant with Republican leanings, agreed. "I think the business community looks at the top of the ticket,'' she said. "I don't think they're interested in who the lieutenant governor is.''

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore/stories/2006/06/26/daily30.html


Ehrlich's current Lt Governor is Michael Steele, an African-American, who is leaving to run for the senate seat vacated by Paul Sarbannes (D). Ehrlich has made great use of black and female imagry in his campaigns, but has governed like any Republican.

My question today: Is this selection of a blind white woman pandering or is it a sincere example of making choices based on qualifications, other issues notwithstanding?
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:11 AM
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1. A blind Lieutenant Governor?
I don't see it. :rofl:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:16 AM
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2. A blind Republican
Oooh, I know, that's too easy and not not nice. Shame on me. :spank:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:18 AM
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3. Inless the blind woman is armed to the teeth with all the
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 11:20 AM by Totally Committed
qualifications a sighted person would have, it is pandering. I wouldn't put it past Ehrlich to do that at all, but since I know nothing about the woman, I won't vote.

That having been said, anyone who has seen Steele on "Real Time with Bill Maher" knows what a slimy, disingenuous a**hole he is. I would LOVE to see his campaign crash and burn.

TC
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:21 AM
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4. TC ....... shhhhhh .... don't tell anyone .... but ........
She and Steele are cut from the same bolt of political cloth.

Can you say 'disingenuous, hate-filled hack'?
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:22 AM
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6. Then, F*ck her!
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 11:23 AM by Totally Committed
I voted "Pandering"! LOL!

TC
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:22 AM
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5. All republicans are Bush republicans now,
and they are all figuratively blind or malicious or both. Being literally blind doesn't mean anything to me one way or another.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:24 AM
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7. Great point!
Wish I'd made it! ;)

TC
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aintitfunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:40 AM
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8. Pandering - no doubt
He really does it well, I guess it is good to have a talent.

I don't think it will have the desired result.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:41 AM
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9. He picked her cause she looks like Ann Coulter's kid sister.
Go here to see her picture.

www.nfb.org/fr/fr4/FRFA0011.htm

When I googled her there was a reference to her having been a Bush appointee, but no specifics were given. She has no political/campaigning experience.

I'm sorry for her personally that she is blind, and it must have taken tremendous perseverance to complete her education. That said, if she is able to access information on how the Bush administration has squandered this country's wealth on war (with Ehrlich's full support), she should realize that this horrendous & still growing Bush deficit means there will be no money left in the U.S. for decades for assistance to the handicapped. Organizations like the NFB will see their funding slashed. Anyone know anything about her family background/level of wealth?

www.examiner.com
Do a search on this website for "Kristin Cox" to get the whole article - their web address has a squiggle in it which I can't match on my keyboard)
(June 26, 2006)
Cox, a former Bush appointee, is legally blind. She has served as disabilities secretary since July 2004 and was formerly appointed by Ehrlich in July 2003 to serve as director of the Governor’s Office for Individuals with Disabilities. Cox could not be reached Sunday.

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:58 AM
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10. That won't fly, if the state wants to make sure all legislation is in
English . . . not Braille . . .

Gee, ask her how she can be a Republican when they were against the Americans with Disabilities Act?
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:04 PM
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11. Pandering. Seriously, is this a wise, practical choice?
If something happened to the governor and she assumed power could she handle the everyday duties as governor of the state of Maryand?

And I don't ask that implying that the blind are incapable of living full and productive lives. Not at all.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:23 PM
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12. We had a blind judge in Pittburgh - Leonard Staisey
and the lawyers used to pull all kinds of shit in his courtroom, like walking in front of the jury box holding huge blownup photos of stuff which was not admissible into evidence, making faces at his rulings, etc. He also served as a county commissioner with his bestest friend, Tom Forester, and the 2 were like TweedleDee and TweedleDum - Forester was Staisey's source of information, so you never saw the two disagree.

You make a valid point. Whomever was chief of staff for this woman would pretty much control and manipulate her. Look how Cheney controls the chimp, and the chimp is sighted.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:31 PM
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13. then what are you implying?
apparently you don't believe a blind person could serve as the governor of a state. Could they serve as Attorney General? Senator? House of Representatives member? Is there a line that you draw somewhere between "okay for blind people to have this position" and "not okay"?

Ultimately, its up to the voters. I hope that they decide based on the merits of the candidates positions and how they'll govern (in which case they'll elect O'Malley and toss Ehrlich out) and not on bias against someone because of a physical characteristic.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 02:55 PM
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14. I'm not implying anything, if you'd take time to read my post.
If that person, sighted or not, can do the job, fine. Vote for him or her.

I would think for someone who is blind that this could be a rather daunting task, given the governorship requires a lot of travel and time on the road, among other things. If they are up to it and can fulfill all their duties, then go for it.

But don't go accusing me of implying that the blind aren't capable people. Big mistake on your part.....................
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 05:17 PM
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15. I read your post and it was pretty clear in what it was implying
You asked whether selecting a blind person as candidate for lieutenant governor was "wise" or "practical" and questioned whether a blind person could handle the job of governor. YOu then gave a pretty clear indication of what you thought the answer to that question was by labelling the selection of a blind candidate as pandering.

If that's not what you meant, then you won't have any problem answering the following question: do you think a blind person can handle the "daunting task" of being governor and of spending "a lot of travel and time on the road".

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 06:47 PM
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16. Ask Kristen Cox. She is the person that has been selected.
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 06:49 PM by Lastlaughin08
If she thinks she can do the job, then I know she'll get your vote.

If she honestly says she can't, Erlich is pandering.

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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 07:04 AM
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18. I guess you're the one that can't read
Since I clearly stated I was against the Erhlich ticket.

I guess even folks with working eyes can't see sometimes.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 07:18 AM
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19. So you won't vote for a candidate who is blind.
And you accused me of impying she isn't able do the job.........
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 04:20 PM
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20. you really can't read can you...because you can't be that stupid
Here's what I said: "I hope that they decide based on the merits of the candidates positions and how they'll govern (in which case they'll elect O'Malley and toss Ehrlich out) and not on bias against someone because of a physical characteristic."

In other words, my opposition to the Ehrlich/Cox ticket is based on their policy choices, not on whether...as you seem think...the job is "too daunting" for someone who is blind.


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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 07:37 PM
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22. Reread post #14. Slowly if necessary, or until it sinks in.
Edited on Sat Jul-01-06 08:08 PM by Lastlaughin08
"If they are up to it and can fulfill all their duties, then go for it"

That's not to difficult to understand, is it?

I have no trouble with a blind person filling any job, if they can handle all the tasks associated with it. The lt. governor is generally a useless position anyway, and few ever dream they'll ever become governor, but it does happen occasionally.






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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 07:47 PM
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17. Seeing that she has absolutely no political experience and is rather
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 07:48 PM by nickshepDEM
new to politics in general, of course I would say its pandering. But it doesnt suprise me considering he select an untested African-American in 2002 just to gain a couple votes here and there.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 04:26 PM
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21. pandering in part -- nothing unusual for second spot on the ticket
Picking a running mate almost always has an ingredient of pandering to it, whether it be pandering to a geographic region, or to a particular segment of the electorate (African-Americans, particular religion, women, veterans, etc.).

O'Malley's running mate certainly is qualified, having served in the state legislature for 7 years. But there are plenty of other state legislators out there who weren't selected. Did the fact that O'Malley's running mate is African American and a veteran influence his selection? Of course it did. Is it "pandering" ... in a sense yes, but not necessarily a bad one. Knocking down barriers (and picking up votes in doing so) is a valid consideration in selecting a running mate.

I support the O'Malley ticket over the Ehrlich ticket not because of the characteristics of their running mates, but because of their respective policy positions.

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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-01-06 08:12 PM
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23. Perhaps her selection is payback
to the visually impaired community for its promotion of e-voting. Moreover, Cox was a lobbyist for the National Federation for the Blind, to which Diebold donated money.
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