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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:37 AM
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Does anyone really believe Bush will obey the Supreme Court ruling?
He still has to protect the American people. He will do his best to create the facade he is going along with the ruling, but he won't. He will look for ways to get around it. Just like he is looking for ways to get around the Court decision about the line item veto. He ignored it. Congress will just change it and he will call it legal. He plans on doing the same thing with this decision would be my guess. He has to get the right people in Congress to assist him in his crimes. He should have no problem.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:38 AM
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1. This will be ignored and fought on other fronts
He will not just quietly follow this interpretation of law.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:39 AM
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2. i believe he will fight for his right to torture!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:42 AM
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5. I don't think he'll fight
I think he'll do something devious, like signing statements.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:50 AM
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10. A Beastie Boy, fer shure.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:39 AM
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3. I was just thinking this very thing as I was reading a story about it...
Edited on Fri Jun-30-06 11:40 AM by Totally Committed
No way will he toe the line -- for the SCOTUS or ANYONE. He doesn't feel he has to.

TC
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:41 AM
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4. Bush obey the Supreme Court when it goes against is Imperial
Power?

:rofl:
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fearthem Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:43 AM
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6. Too arrogant, he thinks he's the "supreme" ruler
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:44 AM
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7. That is how I interpreted raisin brain's
taking the decision 'serious' remark yesterday.

they are seriously studying how they can circumvent & defy it.


Damn those activist judges!
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Innocent Smith Donating Member (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:44 AM
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8. He'll go to congress for the authority
I don't think the Repubs will have any problem going along.

How hard to you think the Dems will fight it?

They (the repubs) are going to use the "soft on terrorism/coddling terrorist" club to get it passed.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:50 AM
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9. "DEMOCRATS WANT THE TERRORISTS TO BE RELEASED!" is how the
Strawman argument will go.

Rather than Democrats want the President to follow the established rules of the United States, and the Geneva Convention etc.
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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:04 PM
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13. The Rove Twist
Indeed.

This is just the kind of thing that KKKarl Rove likes to twist into an attack on liberals.

That is what I expect. The Bushites and radical Republicans will craft military tribunal legislation that gets as far to the edge as possible, ie., secret evidence, secret testamony, limit habeus corpus, etc. ... then they will challenge Democrats to support the bill and if they don't they will scream that "Democrats want the terrorists to be released!"

So, we had all better be ready.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 01:52 PM
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18. I just saw this good counterargument for dems over at TPMcafe:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/jun/29/general_rove_and_the_battle_of_gitmo

<snip>

General Rove and the Battle of Gitmo

By Reed Hundt | bio
Look for the brilliant mastermind of November victories to use the Supreme Court's pro-prisoner decision to the R's advantage this fall. Add to "cut and run" as an epithet for Democrats the potent message that D's stand for releasing murderers and terrorists. To thwart this tactic, Democrats need to clamor for legislation calling for no bail, confidential reports to Congress on the danger to the country from these prisoners (conducted by the 911 Commission), trials starting no later than in the fall, and harsh penalties.

<snip>
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:52 AM
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11. I agree...
I think that will be his first option. Then he will have a crackdown on the leakers. If the people don't know what is happening, no one will challenge their authority.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 11:58 AM
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12. I'm sorry, his Oath of Office was to protect the Constitution - protecting
the people isn't actually mentioned, but implied. He can "protect" me (and other Americans) best by not violating the Constitution.

I'd rather get blown up by a 'terraist' than give up the Constitution that I had also sworn an oath to uphold and protect as has every other Veteran. And many die to uphold that each and every year. The least we can do is expect the Commander-in-Chief to do the same.
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:32 PM
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14. we all know he is not.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:34 PM
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15. No he does as he likes
And the Ports are also going to be run by our 'dear friends' the Arabs. Until we get this group out they are going to push for every thing they can do. And it will speed up until Nov. then if they take Congress once more it will be even more so. Face it there are a lot of people in this country that want some one to run things for them. Did you see that Eagle Forum on c-span to day. I sure do not like the people on it but I sure like what they said about the borders etc. First time I have thought the GOP had something I thought was a good plan.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:38 PM
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16. A congressional end-run
Wondering how many Dems will support *
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BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:59 PM
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17. Nope. He already stated he's "the Decider", and shown disrespect...
...to everyone, and everything both national as well as international from the "git-go".

Why would he change a, for him, good thing?
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