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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:08 PM Original message |
Whatever you do, please don't Lamont us in 2008. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. That is hardly a comprehensive view of the two Lamont campaigns |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ned made a sitting senator lose |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. A primary win is a fake victory, just like grazing in the blogosphere is fake politics. |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Your reality didn't get Webb or Tester in the senate. |
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twilight_sailing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. "A primary win is a fake victory"? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Is Ned Lamont in the Senate now? |
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twilight_sailing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. That's silly. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. But, polls change with the wind, so how are we to know who |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
6. Lamont made the war as a bona fide electoral issue = wins of November |
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Nite Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. If the democratic party had truly |
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The Count (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. True. He had to run against both party machines. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Indeed, Count |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. Lamont certainly would have won a true three way race |
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Sapphire Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
10. One could also say "Don't 'Gore' us in 2008." |
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TheFarseer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
11. As it turned out, yes |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. Nope, I was an early supporter of Ned but I knew it was almost |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
12. There is very little doubt Lamont would have beaten Schlesinger |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Ask me nicely and I'll explain my argument. n/t |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Well, well LoZo, back again for another swipe at Ned? What is it |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. I endorsed Ned in his 2006 Senate race in the general election. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
13. Abandon all principles, ye who enter here! |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I do not advocate abandoning all principles. n/t |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Then why slam the millions of people who supported Lamont, on principle? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. Try and figure it out. |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. So you suggest abandoning our principles selectively? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 03:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. That's not a very nice thing to assume, so I won't answer any of that. n/t |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You seem to enjoy leaving non-answers. LOL n/t |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Not going to beg people not to predicate their questions with strawmen and false assumptions. n/t |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 03:33 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. LOL! You post a rude thread then get angry when people are rude back.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. Ok, I promise not to back a primary challenger against the incumbent Dem Prez |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. That was not the principle I was promoting. n/t |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. The netroots and liberals win, so sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. There is only so much participating one can do on a message board. |
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More Than A Feeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Why do you think we don't? |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. Are you saying that Schlesinger would have won in a two way race? |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #19 |
33. The last Quinnipiac poll had a hole big enough for Schlesinger to walk through. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
23. Ok, then just tell us what DLC candidate you want |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. I can't do that now because I don't have the polls. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Also, you will notice that the message of this post is free of ideology. |
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Lost-in-FL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
24. In other words my fellow Democrats... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. I haven't made a statement about any candidate. n/t |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
25. Bernie Sanders for President in 2008 |
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vote 4 democracy (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Gore/ Obama '08 n/t |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Lamont... |
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Codeblue (466 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
29. People not in office right now |
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left is right (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
39. Lamont may not have won in 06, but |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
40. I don't care. I'm voting for The Impaler. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 01:36 AM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Fine, vote for someone who'll lose against the Republican then. n/t |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
50. As long as the DLC a**holes don't Lieberman US. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
51. I *love* this. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. I said nothing about progressive or centrists. |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 02:02 AM Response to Reply #61 |
67. the idea that one can divorce policy from politics is bunk. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 02:24 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I can give an example of that not being the case. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
52. Quinpac polls are terrible. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
53. here's what will happen |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 11:45 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. in my dreams. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #55 |
70. LOL! See, I didn't say there would be a third party run. Did I? |
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inthebrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
54. I'm voting my conscience!!! How bout that!!!! |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-02-06 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
56. Had Lieberman opted out after he lost, Lamont would have easily won... |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 01:32 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. I'm not addressing candidates. |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 01:48 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Except for making sore loser laws like they have in Ohio prohibiting a Lieberman like move |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 01:38 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Also, if Lamont's campaign could have gotten more people to support him before the primary... |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
57. I would consider Joe Liberman an exception... not the rule... |
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Donna Zen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
58. What does this mean? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 12:29 AM Response to Original message |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
60. Why not? We got LIEBERMANED in 06.... |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #60 |
71. Seriously. Talk about a Twilight Zone thread. |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
63. good points and good luck. nt. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 03:13 AM Response to Original message |
69. Complete bullshit, Lamont would've won in a two-way race |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-03-06 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
72. Locking |
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