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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:16 PM
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Sen Kerry remarks on ISG Report Release:
Many Democrats in the Congress will be releasing individual press statements on the Report of the Iraq Study Group. This is one from Sen. Kerry. There should be others throughout the day and I hope that we can read between the lines of them to see what the Dems are in agreement on and what they disagree on. I am most interested to see the take of Sen. Feingold, Sen. Boxer and Sen. Obama, as they all serve on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and will be involved in the massive hearing schedule that Sen. Biden has planned for January and February of next year.

Sen. John Kerry's Press Release: 12/06/06

“Not one more American soldier should die because politicians in Iraq or in the United States are unwilling to face reality and change direction. We need to change course now. Today, the bipartisan Iraq Study Group issued an urgent call for a new direction in Iraq. Their report acknowledges the futility of the current policy. If the Administration will accept its recommendations, this report can provide core elements of the way forward.

“The report underscores what many of us have long been arguing: there is no military solution to our deep problems in Iraq. Most importantly the report calls on policy makers to acknowledge that for Iraqis to take responsibility for their own future, the large commitment of American forces in Iraq can not be indefinite. Meeting the report’s goal of getting our combat troops out of Iraq by early in 2008 is essential to forcing the diplomatic and political steps needed to achieve stability. I wish the report went further by making this a hard deadline for redeploying our combat troops. Iraqi political leaders have proven time and again that they only respond to hard deadlines, and I believe that a deadline is the most effective way to expedite the process and save lives.

“The report calls for a step for which I have been a strong advocate for over two years: a major diplomatic initiative bringing together others in the region – including Iran and Syria – to forge a political solution to end the violence. Prime Minister Maliki has now embraced the idea of a regional conference, and this requires real diplomacy from the Administration to make it successful. I strongly support the report’s calls for sending additional military and economic support to Afghanistan as we disengage from Iraq because it is clear that we must redeploy from Iraq to succeed in Afghanistan.”

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:25 PM
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1. Very smart to tie in Afghanistan
but then again Kerry is a pretty smart guy.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:30 PM
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2. Very clear, easy to read and caring statement from Senator Kerry.
You can tell just how personal this issue is to him. Trying to protect and save the lives of our soldiers.
Thanks for posting. I am very interested in the others comments. Can't wait to see the others' responses.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 05:39 PM
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14. sure no words are too BIG. seems to be the issue with the man
lol lol. love the man personally. doesnt go beyond me and i didnt finish college. go figure
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:32 PM
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3. Dear God, I wish this man were president now... n/t
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:50 PM
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4. You and me both...
I remember filling out my absentee ballot (I was stuck in college in VA, near that gawd-awful Falwell U.), with glee, and maybe a little hope. *sigh*
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 02:58 PM
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5. We can't imagine how much better off we would be had the Reublicans
not have stolen the 2004 election...
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:07 PM
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6. Let's say that if he was president, all he is describing here would already be done.
The problem now is that it may be too late to do that, unfortunately.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:12 PM
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9. Dear God, I wish *anyone else* were President now
Kerry, Gore, Nixon, Bush 41, Reagan -- all better than this sick little turd.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 06:51 PM
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18. Aye, to be pinning for Nixon
now that's something. But he would be better than this. At least Tricky Dick was an adult.
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:00 PM
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28. Or for the fjords
This bird is dead!
It is deceased!
It ceases to be!

Sort of like Bush's goose - now that it is cooked - stick a fork in it, he's done!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 11:03 PM
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29. It would be pushing up the daisies if you hadn't nailed it's feet to the perch
Heh.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:49 PM
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26. I wish for Kerry over Nixon, 41, Reagan, Hillary, Biden,
and a whole host of people who haven't had the right answers on Iraq or much of anything else.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 03:18 PM
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7. All I kept thinking when I heard the findings of the study group was that Kerry had
been saying much the same thing, during the election and now. Think of the lives that could have been saved.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 07:56 PM
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20. Indeed. I felt the same way.
They basically took a portion of what "clearer heads" have been saying and used it. Though I don't like the idea of sending in more troops in the beginning. I have no idea what this accomplishes?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:02 PM
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8. Sentor Feingold's Statement on the ISG Report

Statement of U.S. Senator Russ Feingold
On the Iraq Study Group Report

December 6, 2006

“Unfortunately, the Iraq Study Group report does too little to change the flawed mind-set that led to the misguided war in Iraq. Maybe there are still people in Washington who need a study group to tell them that the policy in Iraq isn’t working, but the American people are way ahead of this report.

While the report has regenerated a few good ideas, it doesn’t adequately put Iraq in the context of a broader national security strategy. We need an Iraq policy that is guided by our top national security priority – defeating the terrorist network that attacked us on 9/11 and its allies. We can’t continue to just look at Iraq in isolation. Unless we set a serious timetable for redeploying our troops from Iraq, we will be unable to effectively address these global threats. In the end, this report is a regrettable example of ‘official Washington’ missing the point.”
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:16 PM
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10. IWR vote
3, 2, 1........Kerry worshippers leaping to his defense to say the IWR didn't have anything to do with congress going along with the invasion. REad it all, heard it all. Kerry rings hollow to me
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:37 PM
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12. What did you think of the statement
or of Sen Feingold's statement on the ISG?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 06:02 PM
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15. If he had no deep history on the issues of war and peace, then I could understand cynicism
and how a lawmaker's remarks can ring hollow.

But since he's actively worked to end three wars and has worked for years exposing government corruption that leads to wars, and still insists that the war on terror is a law enforcement issue not a military one, and that he first broached that subject a decade before 9-11, 2001, then I think he deserves more credence from followers of history and those concerned with good governance.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 06:49 PM
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17. How many times do I have to tell you.
Edited on Wed Dec-06-06 07:07 PM by LittleClarkie
I'm not a worshiper

I'm a minion.

But what does merely saying "IWR" have to do with this thread? Or do you just pop into Kerry threads and say "IWR" like "Niagra Falls" so we can all "Slowly we turn, step by step, inch by inch"...

I'd perhaps leap to his defense if you'd actually said something instead of waving a red flag in hopes of flames.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 07:11 PM
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19. this thread isn't about the IWR
3,2,1..... Kerry haters jumping in with more spam... read it all, heard it all.

Jocobin rings hollow to me
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 08:29 PM
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21. LOL!
:rofl:
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 04:32 PM
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11. K&R n/t
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 05:24 PM
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13. k&r again
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 06:34 PM
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16. Here's what I don't get...
how can anyone be credible without mentioning the oil? How can they expound on fixing a policy that exists solely to serve American business interests without ever acknowledging the fact.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 08:53 PM
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22. I am not sure who you are refering to in your criticism
I know Kerry addressed this many times in the past, including in a speech last Dec to the Council on Foreign Relations in NY.

In the long run — and we are in this for the long run — the war on terror cannot be won without the successful transformation of the Greater Middle East, and especially its Arab core. And our strategy must do what it takes to increase the internal demand for change in that region. That means that we are in a war of ideas and ideologies — but ultimately a war that must be fought and won within the Islamic world. That means we have a huge stake in finding partners in the Arab world who are willing not only to support the transformation of the Middle East, but to reestablish the broad and unchallenged moral authority needed to isolate and defeat terrorists. And ultimately, that means we must liberate ourselves from (sic\and) the Middle East itself from the tyranny of dependence on petroleum, which has frustrated every impulse towards modernization in the region, while giving its regimes the resources to avoid choices and hold on to power.

We have to understand that the hostility to America and to our values that feeds the jihadist threat is the product of many decades of repressed debate within the Middle East. We’ve become the convenient excuse for the failures of rulers, and a convenient target for the frustrations of the ruled. And frankly, we’ve made that possible by signaling Arab regimes that we don’t much care what they do so long as they keep pumping the oil and keep the price low. That attitude has to end, not only end, it must be reversed.

Energy independence is not a pie-in-the-sky concept. It’s not just a dream. It’s a domestic priority for our country, obviously, but is much more. It is essential to our national security, because our reliance on their oil limits our ability to move them towards the needed reforms and actually props up decaying and sometimes corrupt regimes, including those that support terrorist groups.

http://www.cfr.org/publication/9390/real_security_in_a_post911_world.html
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:51 PM
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24. Thank you ...
I needed that. The language of politics infuriates me. Lately it's the 'when they stand up, we'll stand down' meme, that the Iraqi government whatever that is, is either the problem or the solution. It seems to me that the problem is not leaving Iraq, but leaving Iraq with more access to the Middle-east for American business interests. The thing is that everything is a guessing game, and the meaning behind any words spoken by any spokesperson need translation, to just surmise the intent. Who is part of the problem and who may be part of the solution is a crap shoot. Who is the puppet, and who the master? My feeling of Kerry, is like an old boyfriend who jilted me. Still love the guy, but not so sure who he is anymore. Not sure of anything anymore.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:16 PM
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25. There are a number of good Dems who know what is going on
and that American foreign policy itself has to change. We cannot continue to do business with repressive regimes because they supply us with cheap sources of energy or cheap labor. It is morally wrong and it invites 'blowback' fom the people of those repressed states who identify America as co-conspirators in that repression.

There are a number of good Dems who feel that way. I believe Sen. Kerry is one of them. I do not agree with him on every issue. (I don't agree with anyone on every issue, sigh!) I wish he had voted against the Oman Free Trade deal. I understand why he voted for it and that it came out of the situation in the Middle East and the fact that Oman is one of the only friendly states left for the US. Understanding something is not the same as agreeing with it.

However, I think that Kerry's statements on how to make progress in this world and stop promoting bad policies and bad regimes are dead-on. We do need to reform how we deal with the rest of the world.

There are other good Dems who also understand this. I think Sens. Fengold, Boxer and Leahy are also excellent at this and also believe that our dependence on Middle Eastern oil and the way in which we make sure we get that oil is a deadly arrangement and must change.
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Heewack Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 09:02 PM
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23. They do mention the oil several times.
As far as Kerry is concerned he need not mention oil as it is an ancillary issue to what faces the U.S. at the current moment.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-06-06 10:52 PM
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27. Excellent statement!
Senator Kerry did a few great interviews today. He was on Scarborough talking about the ISG: step in the right direction, but didn't go far enough. Excellent, must-see clip.

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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:37 PM
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30. Kerry was made into a punching bag for saying what the ISG now says.
I'm sure he'll be getting an apology from the WH and its right-wing noise machine any day now.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:41 PM
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31. Dean, Murtha, Kerry and Feingold were all labeled cut and runners.
Too bad this ISG is a year later than they were.
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-07-06 12:44 PM
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32. A year later and still not far enough
However, it's more than I would have expected from a group headed by Baker.

At least Kerry is getting a lot of good coverage in the press now. He's been doing a lot of interviews about Iraq and the report, and he's actually been treated fairly. Feingold has been making the media rounds too.
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