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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:07 AM
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Dean in tomorrow's interview with BayNews9...asks cooperation on primaries.
In fact it sounds like a warning of sorts. Not just to the states but to the candidates who campaign out of order of the new system.

Disclaimer: I don't have an opinion on the primary set-up right now. But I think when rules are set up in an official manner, they should be followed.

Note to the DNC pr folks: Quit saying Dean didn't really mean it about Congress not seating Buchanan...I saw the clip, he meant it. Shut up and quit being apologetic.

The interview airs tomorrow.

http://www.sptimes.com/2006/12/10/State/Moving_primary_earlie.shtml


Florida Democrats have generally embraced the push by state GOP leaders to move Florida's March presidential primary earlier in 2008 to increase the Sunshine State's influence in picking presidential nominees. But Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean recommends caution.

"If they move it into January, their delegates won't count in the Democratic convention, so I wouldn't advise that," Dean said in a Political Connections interview airing at 11 a.m. today on Bay News 9.

Florida would risk losing at least half its 208 delegates if it violated the party primary schedule rules by scheduling a primary before Feb. 5. But Dean noted that any candidate who campaigned in a state violating the schedule rules would forfeit any delegates won. Republicans also risk losing half their 114 delegates, but party leaders appear undaunted at this point. State House Speaker Marco Rubio, the main advocate for an early primary, said Florida won't schedule anything before Iowa or New Hampshire, but "after that it's fair game."


I wish both parties good luck on that. Sounds like everyone is planning on going their merry way. Guess it will take time.

Deam's comments on the Florida 13 election and Mel Martinez.

Dean's Political Connections interview made national news last week after the Times reported that he said in the interview that the Democratic-controlled Congress should not seat Republican Vern Buchanan in Congressional District 13 without a new election. The DNC tried to clarify that Dean was not trying to tell congressional leaders what to do.

(Actually, someone needs to stand up and tell them what to do. Time to take a stand)

Asked about Florida Sen. Mel Martinez, soon to be his counterpart at the Republican National Committee, Dean described Martinez as "right down the line on Republican doctrine. ... He is probably someone who we're going to have lively debates with over the next couple years because we think the agenda he represents was rejected by American voters."


Here's the BayNews9 website.

http://www.baynews9.com/PoliticalConnections.html

Sometimes they have videos up later.






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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:16 AM
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1. A problem with opening the door to something like this
(changing the primary schedule), is that it can become a free-for-all.

But I think (and thought) that it's worth the risk.

However, a little discipline would be nice.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:37 AM
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2. I have wondered if it is not heading toward regional primaries.
I know there was discussion. Change bothers people. I don't like frontloaded primaries really, but I think it may be leading to something better eventually...so not saying too much on it.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:44 AM
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3. I think regional primaries are a much better idea, then everyone
gets "visited and seen," instead of this white bread BS of Iowa and NH. No offense to the aforementioned States, but there isn't a whole lotta diveristy going on there, let's be honest.

We thought regional primaries after the fiasco of 2004 would have been appropriate.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:38 AM
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6. I disagree about regional primaries
I don't think that would guarantee that every state gets visited.

In a Northeast regional primary do you think money and time would be spent in the small New England states when the large-delegate states of Massachusetts, New York, and Pennsylvania are also up for grabs? I sure don't.

I don't think the DNC has been discussing regional primaries as a way to go.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 03:25 PM
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7. Well if they don't, then it's the same old shit different pile,
everybody cramming to get the MO from a few early states. I don't see what will change? Do you? So what if Nevada and State X go early -- the candidates will spend the majority of their time where they can build the excitement.

I guess the system sucks and it always will.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:50 AM
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4. You're right that "change" bothers some people.
When I suggested at caucus that we change the system so that one state (one red state; i.e., Iowa) doesn't have so much clout, an elderly attorney stood up and summarily dismissed my suggestion, saying "the system has worked just fine for this long, why change it?" I answered her but she was having none of it, and the issue just dropped like a stone. Still, I think it's a ridiculous system that forces the candidates to spend way too much time and money in just one place, and that one place can "make or break" a candidate given the opportunity to stack the deck. Look at what happened to Dean in Iowa.
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:53 AM
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5. I don't know where it's heading,
and it could take some time before things settle out.

Personally, I'd like to see broader geography (than currently so) determining who the candidate is; but my likes and dislikes (etc) don't move reality.
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