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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:52 PM
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No. Effin. Way.
Yes, if the election were restricted to DUers, DK would have a whale of a chance. But Kucinich will never, ever, ever be president. Never. Sure, I'd vote for him, and so would about 6 million other diehards. That'll leave us about 55 million votes short.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:53 PM
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1. I know
I'm just glad he's running.

He keeps the Naderites at bay, and brings up issues the others don't.

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:56 PM
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2. Ditto for Obama at least for this time around.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 08:21 AM
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9. Good but dangerous comparison
Obama may not be quite "ready for the top of the ticket" yet, but he needs to be careful that he doesn't wind up being viewed in the same way as Kucinich or Sharpton.

I think K & S liven up the primary and the debates, and bring up good issues. But they're both too "out there", too marginal, to make it successfully as "the candidate".

Did I mention my first choice is Gore?

Regards.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:37 PM
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12. I think Obama's better off running for Prez in '16
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 02:38 PM by rocknation
especially if he has eight years' experience as VICE-prez from '08!

:headbang:
rocknation
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:58 PM
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3. true . . . but it's good that he's running . . . since he'll be the only one . . .
telling the truth about the critical issues . . . he'll help move the discussion to the left, which is a good thing . . .
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:00 PM
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4. Sharpton spoke the truth too.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 09:18 AM
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10. Yes, and I'd vote for either one of them
before I'd cast a vote for what the party offers up as "major" candidates.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:53 PM
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14. Two words: Tawana Brawley (nt)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:01 PM
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5. The thing of it is, he won't do that.
He's so completely minimalized that he doesn't move the discussion leftward. He is flatly ignored.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 04:24 AM
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8. you may be right . . . but I think people may be more ready to hear progressive ideas . . .
because, frankly, they're the only ones that will lead to real solutions . . .

if we continue to adhere to the Republican/conservative "business in everything, profits are all that count, and the people are nothing more than an annoyance to be handled with pr" ideology, then we are indeed doomed . . .
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:03 PM
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6. Look, Kucinich is an intelligent man
he knows he has no chance to win, he's running to improve the dialogue perhaps get some leverage for the "Democratic" wing of the Democratic party. If you agree with him on all his issues I suggest you go ahead and work for him up until the nomination. It's healthy. Not everyone who runs, runs to win.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:04 PM
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7. The fact that he runs is GREAT. He does what Al Sharpton does.
Which is MOVE THE DEBATE to the issues that ordinary, not quite disenfranchised, but not-feeling-totally-included, slightly marginalized people want discussed. Let's not talk about arcane bullshit, let's talk about basics like WAR and POVERTY and HEALTH CARE and EDUCATION for the kids.

He doesn't fit the 'demographic' of a winner, in terms of his height, his number of marriages, and his stances. But that's for the voters to decide.

I admit, he's not my pick. Still, I'm delighted that he's entered the race. He's incredibly articulate, he knows how to frame issues, and he will pull the YOUNG (who don't vote as much as they might) in.

So I say

Yes. Effin. Way.



Run, Dennis, run...and SPEAK, Dennis, SPEAK!

It's all good.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 01:47 PM
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11. WAY fewer than 6 million "diehards" fueled the entire neocon movement
by making enough noise to force their agenda into the repuke mainstream
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:51 PM
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13. The way I look at it
Kucinich and Obama will split the die hard anti war left, Clinton will get the center and right of Center, and Edwards will get all the rest, the non ideologists who do not want a repeat of McGovern in 1972.

Even Bye, on the other hand - now this will change the equation.

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