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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:02 PM
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I have no doubt who will be the strongest candidates in 08', should they decide to run.
Without question, Gore will be a powerful force to reckonn with. He deserves serious consideration as our candidate. He has always been a man ahead of his time, and has proven he is not afraid to speak truth to power. Future generations may remember Gore as the first so sound the alarm on the environmental catastrophe engulfing our planet.

Hillary is Hillary. Unfortunately, although she brings nothing special to the table, because she is a Clinton with $$$ and the backing of a former popular president, she will be a force.

Clark has done more for the Democratic Party in the last election cycle than most Democratic politicans do in a lifetime of public service. He has taken on the swiftboaters, and stood up for Democrats against the Republican smear machine. He spoke against the war, and has always stood up for the men and women of our armed forces. Having led a diverse coalition of nations against genocide and served in many administrations, he is well-suited to lead this nation into the 21st century and restore America's moral standing in the world. Clark understand national security is more than fighting terrorism, it's also about combating global warming, economic security, and securing our constitutioin from forces who would undermine the very foundation of this country.

Barack Obama has caught the imagination of millions though his eloquence, intelligence, and youthful idealism. Some may think a run by someone so inexperienced would be audacious, but - without sounding trite- it truly would be the audacity of hope. Many who were attracted to Edwards youth and idealism in 04' will find in Obama one someone who speaks to them, and to their hope for a better America. For One America.


Clark, Gore, Obama. These are our strongest candidates, and I would be proud to support any of them should they win the nomination. Democrats ought to be proud that we have such outstanding leaders to offer America.

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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:13 PM
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1. Any combination
of these 3 would make a great ticket.
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:15 PM
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3. I agree.
I think some combinations of the three would be greater than others (and more likely to win against any hypothetical Republican ticket), but for now I'll just leave it at that.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 10:15 PM
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2. Agreed....they are the ones......
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 10:18 PM by FrenchieCat
:patriot:

And none advocated "for" going into Iraq.

They have the judgement as leaders that we need desperately!
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 11:33 PM
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4. I disagree.
Clark and Gore are the only ones who would be contenders. While you may look at all of them as equals, the rest of the country does not. Hillary, a woman, would not have a chance if we are still at war. Obama, a black, will never be considered a viable candidate as long as there are white men who can do the job. Sorry, but unless he does something amazing in the next 2 years that erases his color, he will not have a chance with the majority of the nation.

And while many here are still pissed at Kerry, the majority of dems are not. So, I would put Gore, Kerry and Clark up there, while not counting Edwards out.

zalinda



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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:19 AM
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7. I disagree. I believe a black man or a woman can win the Presidency in 08'.
IF they are the strongest candidate.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 07:49 AM
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8. Just because you are progressive
don't think every one is. Until the senior citizens are of the civil rights generation, I don't think there is a chance. The seniors are a huge voting block, and while very few would admit to prejudice, very few would vote for a woman or a black as a leader of this country. They may let them be a vice president, but not president. Even my mother who is in her 70's would never vote for either of them. This is a hidden prejudice that runs very deep, even in blue cities.

I think in about 10 to 15 years when Obama is seasoned, he'll be elected. Our kids today growing up in a multi-cultured environment will not have a problem voting for him. And we'll be the seniors, with our progressive views.

And the plain simple truth..........no one will believe that a black man or a woman will be the strongest candidate. They are like Kucinich, they will be allowed in the primary process, but have very little chance of winning the nomination.

zalinda
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 05:34 PM
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11. Although you're a Clarkie and I totally respect that, I respectfully
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 05:35 PM by Clark2008
disagree.

We have to flip some red/purple states in the South and mid-West to take the general election and, after the crap that was flung at Harold Ford Jr. - and, more importantly, that a certain percentage of folks believed it and let it feed into their racist fears - I have no hop that a black man... or a woman... can win the presidency in 2008. Tennessee is a solid purple state with a near mix of Democrats and Republicans elected to both state and national offices - it's certainly not a "bastion" of racism anymore so than any other state - it's just representative of middle America.

Maybe in a few years if the Dem congress with a Dem president can get a handle on our lame media and drive back the misconceptions that have been allowed to perpetuate under 12 years of Republican rule, then a black person and/or a woman can win. I just don't see it now. Sadly enough.
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:02 AM
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5. Clinton will still be a factor!
The election in 2000 was still all about Clinton. Many people who voted for Chimpy were actually voting ABC (anybody but Clinton, or distantly related to Clinton), and that worked against Gore. In 2004 there wasn't a Clinton factor, but there was a scare factor.

In 2008 there will still be the ABC's, but they will deflect attention from Gore, should he run.

I like all five; Gore, Clark, Obama, Edwards, Clinton, and I like what Kucinich brings to the debate table.

WHAT A WONDERFUL TIME TO BE A MEMBER OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 05:27 PM
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10. In 2004, there was likely still somewhat of a Clinton factor
Hate him or like him, he is a major factor. A plus for many positives in office, a negative for sleasy behavior. Putting his book out in June/July 2004 ate up air thet Kerry/Edwards could have used and led to immediate looking up the letter "L" in the index of the book. That timing was beyond selfish.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:37 AM
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6. Gore, Obama, Clark
Gore deserves the do-over IMO.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 03:03 PM
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9. Edwards more than Obama. n/t
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