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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 03:47 PM
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"Good Soldier Powell" Apparently Stays True To Bush's "Stay The Course" Philosophy
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Former Secretary of State Colin Powell told Bob Schieffer of CBS' Face The Nation of the Iraq War: "We are losing. We haven't lost."

How are we to feel about Powell? Some in the liberal blogosphere are cheering the above quote. But I remain unimpressed with "Good Soldier Powell."

But in truth, Powell is on the "stay the course" bandwagon. He's the loyal soldier.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 03:50 PM
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1. My reply to the show thread from yesterday
Gee Colin, do you believe what you're saying this time?

And why should it be up to the Iraqi people to "win" in their own country? We, after all, are the "grown-ups" who decapitated Iraq's leadership, permitted the vacuum to collapse the civil society, and now three years later are debating whether we should walk away or run away from the mess we created.

All because Mr. Powell went to the UN with his prevaricating Power Point presentation, trying to pass off phony drawings as "evidence" of the imminent threat Saddam posed not just to the rest of the world but directly to the United States. I wonder if Schieffer had the bad taste to bring up Colin's shining moment from February 2003? Surely not.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 03:50 PM
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2. He's still on the outs as far as I'm concerned,
and got a whole lot further to go to get anywhere near my good graces. When someone I've admired is complicit in such a thing (as the Iraq debacle and) with such dubious characters, it's a long uphill walk back to my esteem.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 03:53 PM
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3. but if you look at the blogs
they jump whenever powell says something vaguely anti-bush. ThinkProgress features him regularly. Even some of the newspaper columnists, at the WaPo and elsewhere, are quick to writa about everything Powell says.

To me, he's not really anti-Bush. He's more realistic in his language than Bush, but he's essentially "stay the course."
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 04:06 PM
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6. Goes to show, I suppose, just because one is a liberal blogger
doesn't mean one is particularly smart or capable of penetrating thought.
Sometimes people are such a disappointement.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 04:50 PM
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8. it's snap judgment based
on just looking at the quote, and not paying attention to the context or recent history.

sometimes, people are a little desperate to find anti-bush folks within the GOP. this isn't a good example.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 04:50 PM
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9. it's snap judgment based
on just looking at the quote, and not paying attention to the context or recent history.

sometimes, people are a little desperate to find anti-bush folks within the GOP. this isn't a good example.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 04:03 PM
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4. Powell is that same utterly disgusting slimeball who quashed
the report on Vietnam atrocities.

The same sickening piece of filth whose connivance provided cover for the Iran-Contra double-dealings, for which that miserable hunk of human excrement Raygun and his bush 1 pally should have been impeached and executed.

He was in the junior cabal because that's where he belonged. Repulsive garbage.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 04:03 PM
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5. I've never understood the strong draw to him. Even the company
that I work at used his "leadership statements" to circulate around the company for "inspiration". Well, I say, words are cheap (never cheaper than recently) - to me, Powell is just one more snake doing everything to look good, but doing nothing to make things better for anyone but himself.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 04:39 PM
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7. I think you're wrong -
Powell clearly indicated in the FTN interview that he felt Bush's "course" was a failure.

That he didn't go as far as you might want in no way diminishes the impact of his criticisms, and they will have an impact.

Sometimes, in war (and we are at war with BushCo), you have to take your allies where you can find them.
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JABBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-18-06 04:51 PM
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10. that's my point
if you look at what powell is advocating, it's stay the course, finish the job, fix the country, etc.

there's no hint of anything remotely in sync with the Democratic Party.
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