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LuckyTheDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:12 PM
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Sam Brownback: Dangerous dude
Edited on Sat Dec-23-06 11:25 PM by LuckyTheDog
This guy should never be president. And if he becomes president, I might very well move my family to Canada.

http://brownback.senate.gov/

It's not just because I disagree with him on most issues. I can deal with that. Heck, there are issues (the need for action in Darfur and some health care proposals, for instance) on which I think he is actually right.

But Sam Brownback and I disagree on the fundamental nature of the republic we live in. And if his agenda is ever achieved, America will never be the same. The main reason I say that: his proposed "Constitution Restoration Act," which would, in fact, be a huge blow to the Constitution.

The most important passage says this:

"`Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Supreme Court shall not have jurisdiction to review, by appeal, writ of certiorari, or otherwise, any matter to the extent that relief is sought against an element of Federal, State, or local government, or against an officer of Federal, State, or local government (whether or not acting in official personal capacity), by reason of that element's or officer's acknowledgement of God as the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government.’”

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominion...rationAct.html

Why is this important? Because, as established by the Founding Fathers, the "the sovereign source of law, liberty, or government" is the consent of the people, not God. The Constitution, under which that consent is granted, is a secular document with roots in English Common Law and Enlightenment philosophy, and not religion -- certainly not the Bible.

Is this an academic difference of opinion? No. It is not because it has implications for the day-to-day practice of religious tolerance in America and for the law itself. Acknowledge that "God" is "sovereign" and the "source of law" in the secular world -- and you open a real can of worms.

Among other things, you leave yourself open to one of the most important goals of the Christian Reconstructionist movement: the recognition of Biblical "case law" and God-granted "legislation" by our legal system. What would that mean? Among other things, it would allow judges to cite Biblical stories -- just as they might cite any other "case" -- as precedent for their legal decisions. And the "laws" of the Bible could be considered to be "in force" today, whether or not civil authorities codified them.

In fact, if Brownback goes as far as Roy Moore (the 10 Commandments judge who thought the Bible was more fundamental to our law than the Constitution), then the Constitution could be reinterpreted in ways deemed to be consistent with Mosaic Law. In any legal face-off between Constitutional freedom and the Bible, the Constitution would have to give way because, after all, God is the "sovereign" authority of highest rank.

In short, Brownback is a religious radical who has revealed his reconstructionist/dominionist intentions. He should never be president. In fact, he ought to resign from the Senate in penance for his inability to uphold his oath of office.

(minor punctuation/wording edits)
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:14 PM
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1. Run Sam, Run!
Please, Please, Please, God, make this man the
standard bearer for the Republican party!!!
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:17 PM
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2. You may get that wish
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:44 PM
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6. I never want to cheer on the worst of the opposing candidates...
...simply hoping for someone easy to defeat. I think the Republicans are crazy enough to let Brownback, or someone like him, win the Republican nomination. If that happens, and then for some completely unexpected reason the Democratic candidate goes down in flames when it's too late to put another Democrat up to replace him... we end up having to say the words "President Brownback". Too horrible to imagine.

I'd much rather hope we get a reasonably defeatable but not quite so odious a choice as Brownback to run against.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 12:19 AM
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9. They Just might be Remember GW
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 11:31 AM
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17. I agree. PLEASE run
The contrast couldn't be more glaring.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:20 PM
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3. Those of us who are law school grads refer to that ..
"Restoration Act" as mandating "COURT-STRIPPING" - and, one could not find a more disgusting legislative activity (I'm probably exaggerating a tad due to my anger at the mere thought). You are quite correct - he is a dangerous and ignorant individual. Moreover, the Supreme Court stated early on in a very famous decision that the legislature cannot forbid its input when it comes to questions of fundamental rights guaranteed in the Constitution. So, it is highly questionable that Brownback's Act would be upheld by the Court, and thus its enforcement rendered viable, even if a snowball froze in Hell (and it passed)(just my humble two cents' worth).
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 12:55 AM
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12. Something tells me it would be struck down.
And yes I would enjoy it.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 01:06 AM
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14. Yep (n/t).
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:22 PM
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4. He isn't going to be president, ever.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 09:48 AM
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15. Six years ago I would have laughed
in your face if you said the USA would become known worldwide as a bunch of torturers.
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Ninja Jordan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:56 PM
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18. Fair enough, but this guy is a loon.
President Brownback? lol

While we may want a 'President Obama,' he is easier to feed to the American public.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:37 PM
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5. Yes, he's very dangerous. Sort of a kin to a David Duke, IMO.
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MrRobotsHolyOrders Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 01:03 AM
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13. Nonsense
David Duke in his hay had way better hair than Sam Brownback.
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:47 PM
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7. He's a fucking whack job
I'm embarrassed to be from the same state:blush:
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 11:50 PM
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8. I live in Kansas.
Sam Brownback is one of our two Senators. Because of an auto-immune disorder (alopecia areata) I have the privilege of lobbying on Capitol Hill every four or five years. The most recent lobbying expedition, I wound up sitting in the reception area of Brownback's office for about an hour. It was very enlightening, watching the receptionist -- an extraordinarily clean-cut and well-groomed young woman -- train an intern, and in between calls turn to us and trash-talk Pat Roberts, our other Kansas Senator.

Next summer I get to do the lobbying stint again.
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 12:53 AM
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10. Amendment XVIII
"Any person found to have been in favor of proposing legislation that violates any of the previous statutes contained herein shall be deemed unfit for the Presidency."

Of course it probably would be fixed up but that would prevent any serious religious or other type of psycho from running for President.
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MrRobotsHolyOrders Donating Member (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 12:55 AM
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11. Doubters
When you get past his nonexsistent base, his total lack of charm and charisma, and the fact that he comes across on TV as the kind of guy who would feed on puppies and infants if they haplessly wandered into his yard one lonesome night, I think he's got the potential to go all the way.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 11:27 AM
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16. He is bloody scary.
He had better not become president. No one needs a Taliban type psycho in charge of the world's biggest collection of WMD.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 11:14 PM
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19. He's the leading anti-"indecency" crusader in the Senate. Howard Stern hates him more than anyone
in that body.

It will atleast be interesting to see how Howard attempts to fuck with him. I hope he does anyway.
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